Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 01:34:50 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> To: Frank Pawlak <fpawlak@execpc.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>, wes@softweyr.com, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral Message-ID: <20010706013450.A48685@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010706020157.026cea40@127.0.0.1>; from fpawlak@execpc.com on Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 02:47:21AM -0500 References: <000701c10452$ca818600$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <3B4560DD.428634F8@softweyr.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20010706020157.026cea40@127.0.0.1>
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--Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 02:47:21AM -0500, Frank Pawlak wrote: > >You're assuming that not having Walnut Creek around is going to be > >good for Linux Central, or good for FreeBSD? I personally wouldn't > >give a bucket of warm spit for Linux Central's well being, but am quite > >worried about the well being of FreeBSD in the near future. >=20 > I agree, the future of FreeBSD does look dim right now. It is being=20 > developed, but not promoted and distributed with any kind of profession= =20 > consistency. And that is a crying shame. Let's not go overboard here. Things can surely be improved, but I wouldn't go so far as to call the future of FreeBSD "dim". > >Yes, all of the above are bad, and they're a sign of an even worse > >problem. FreeBSD has done well for the past 8 years due in large part > >because it an energetic and persuasive "product manager" in the person > >of Jordan K. Hubbard pushing, cajoling, and badgering the CD-ROM > >product through the arduous steps of production. Those who think > >this process happens on auto-pilot are deluded; it has to be baby- > >stepped through every time. >=20 > He was a very unique member of the core team, and had a lot of salesman a= nd=20 > public relations savvy. His departure leaves a gaping hole in the projec= t=20 > as it now stands. However, it is my understanding that he was paid to do= =20 > just those sort of things. It would appear that the work he did out side= =20 > of release coordination would almost require a full time employee of the= =20 > project. And just to be clear, Jordan hasn't left FreeBSD, just changed employers. > What part did any of this play in Jordan's decision to go to Apple? Was = it=20 > that there was no day job at WRS? That is how I read his message of=20 > resignation. WRS still employs a number of FreeBSD developers to work full time on FreeBSD; things aren't as bad as you seem to think, they're just more uncertain right now than some of us would like. Kris --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7RXgqWry0BWjoQKURAsQ/AJ9csiAfglE4g7g4CYsF96xWA9cK3ACgjDis sojka14/sqbunjBTWOAXu5U= =aiWr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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