Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 02:17:56 -0700 From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: "Doug Hass" <dhass@imagestream.com>, <owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>, "MurrayTaylor" <taylorm@bytecraft.au.com>, <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Cc: "Alfred Shippen" <ashippen@metromatics.com.au> Subject: RE: FYI Message-ID: <006001c15491$1c1c6aa0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1011012170753.5271E-100000@ims1.imagestream.com>
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There are other vendors that sell the WanIC than Imagestream. I realize that you see yourself as the only supplier but this isn't true. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Doug Hass >Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 3:11 PM >To: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Ted Mittelstaedt; MurrayTaylor; >freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Cc: Alfred Shippen >Subject: Re: FYI > > >I'm providing this to the people whose addresses appear in the original >messages. My apologies if this gets cross-posted or sent multiple times >to the same place. As I mention below, the WANic 400 series cards and all >of the RISCom/N2 series cards are now End Of Life, and only available in >special quantity builds. > >If anyone reading this message needs further information, please contact >me directly and I can go into further depth about the EOL cards mentioned >below and their replacements in the SBS line. > >Regards, > >Doug > >----- > >Doug Hass >ImageStream Internet Solutions >dhass@imagestream.com >http://www.imagestream.com >Office: 1-219-935-8484 >Fax: 1-219-935-8488 > > >On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Doug Hass wrote: > >> The WANic 400 series is definitely EOL. The cards are available in >> quantities of 100+ only by special order. The RISCom/N2 series cards are >> also EOL. >> >> This is a recent decision--it went into effect as of September 21st. >> Closeout quantities have already been sold to other companies, so the >> cards are only available by special order. >> >> The WANic 521/522 have replaced these cards, and should be used instead. >> There are no drivers for FreeBSD, however. >> >> Doug >> >> >> >> On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Alfred Shippen wrote: >> >> > This guy is local to you and is under the misapprehension that >the Risc/400 >> > series is not a discontinued item. I dont know if you want to >follow them up >> > or not. My customer (Bytecraft) is fine by this and has passed on the >> > comments to me. >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> >> > > To: "MurrayTaylor" <taylorm@bytecraft.au.com>; >> > > <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>; <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG> >> > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 3:07 PM >> > > Subject: RE: Imagestream WanIC-520 interface cards >> > > >> > > >> > > > The WANic 5xx's use an incompatible chipset and the driver will not >> > > > work with them. >> > > > >> > > > I thnk your supplier is feeding you a line of bullshit. SBS >> > > Communications >> > > > has posted no plans whatsover to discontinue or change the >WANic line. >> > > > They are fully aware that the 405's have open source drivers and are >> > > > furthermore used in embedded systems too. >> > > > >> > > > The WANic 5xx series of cards sell for more money and so >naturally your >> > > > supplier is most interested in maximizing his margin and >would prefer to >> > > > push you into a more expensive card. >> > > > >> > > > With the increase in CPU power all of the go-fast hardware on the >> > > higher-level >> > > > cards is less important. >> > > > >> > > > Consider that the Hitachi controller chip used on the WANic >405 is the >> > > > SAME chip that Cisco uses in it's 25xx series of routers, >and the Cisco >> > > > 2501 is the most used router in the world and has the most installed >> > > > units. >> > > > >> > > > SBS Communications is STILL selling the RISCom series of >cards which is >> > > > the predecessor to the WANic, uses the same controller, these are ISA >> > > cards >> > > > that have a design that's over 10 years old. >> > > > >> > > > You tell your supplier that since the 405 is being "phased >out" that he >> > > > should sell you a bunch of them at closeout prices. >> > > > >> > > > Ted Mittelstaedt >> > > tedm@toybox.placo.com >> > > > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate >Networker's >> > > Guide >> > > > Book website: >> > > http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >-----Original Message----- >> > > > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >> > > > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of >MurrayTaylor >> > > > >Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 4:49 PM >> > > > >To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG >> > > > >Subject: Imagestream WanIC-520 interface cards >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >As the WanIC-405 is being phased out (according to my supplier >> > > > >down under here in OZ), has any development / testing been >done on the >> > > > >apparent replacement, the WanIC-521 (522, 524 ... ) range >> > > > > >> > > > >I am especially interested in its compatibility with its predecessor >> > > > >which I am using very successfully for frame relay under Netgraph. >> > > > > >> > > > >I'm trying to get compatability info from the supplier here, >> > > > >but we are a long way down the food chain ;-( >> > > > > >> > > > >Tia >> > > > > >> > > > >Murray Taylor >> > > > >Bytecraft Systems Pty Ltd >> > > > >murraytaylor@bytecraftsystems.com >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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