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Date:      Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:37:13 +0200
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
Cc:        Kirill Ponomarev <krion@FreeBSD.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r510145 - head/sysutils/screen
Message-ID:  <20190829133713.5l3jk67el47gdmfb@ivaldir.net>
In-Reply-To: <6624DB64-13E5-494D-AC1D-16D002AD5D2E@cschubert.com>
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 06:21:48AM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote:
> On August 29, 2019 6:09:00 AM PDT, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> =
wrote:
> >On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 05:54:15AM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote:
> >> In message <20190829124225.r7gpumnvtbeguuoz@ivaldir.net>, Baptiste=20
> >> Daroussin wr
> >> ites:
> >> >=20
> >> >
> >> > --vmfceac25l47d6el
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> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 05:30:42AM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote:
> >> > > In message <201908290638.x7T6cVFc033808@repo.freebsd.org>, Kirill
> >Ponomar=3D
> >> > ev=3D20
> >> > > wri
> >> > > tes:
> >> > > > Author: krion
> >> > > > Date: Thu Aug 29 06:38:31 2019
> >> > > > New Revision: 510145
> >> > > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/510145
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Log:
> >> > > >   Remove building man page by default. It's currently broken on
> >HEAD
> >> > > >   and requires to build textproc/groff which requires
> >devel/llvm80
> >> > > >   which is an overkill for using screen.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Modified:
> >> > > >   head/sysutils/screen/Makefile
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Modified: head/sysutils/screen/Makefile
> >> > > >
> >=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D
> >> >
> >=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D
> >> >
> >=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=
=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D
> >> > =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D
> >> > > > =3D3D
> >> > > > --- head/sysutils/screen/Makefile	Thu Aug 29 06:37:17
> >2019	(r51014
> >> > > > 4)
> >> > > > +++ head/sysutils/screen/Makefile	Thu Aug 29 06:38:31
> >2019	(r51014
> >> > > > 5)
> >> > > > @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
> >> > > > =3D20
> >> > > >  PORTNAME=3D3D	screen
> >> > > >  PORTVERSION=3D3D	4.6.2
> >> > > > -PORTREVISION=3D3D	1
> >> > > > +PORTREVISION=3D3D	2
> >> > > >  CATEGORIES=3D3D	sysutils
> >> > > >  MASTER_SITES=3D3D	GNU \
> >> > > >  		ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/screen/ \
> >> > > > @@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ COMMENT=3D3D	Multi-screen window manager
> >> > > >  LICENSE=3D3D	GPLv3
> >> > > > =3D20
> >> > > >  OPTIONS_DEFINE=3D3D		INFO MAN NETHACK XTERM_256 SHOWENC SYST
> >> > EM_SCREE
> >> > > > NRC
> >> > > > -OPTIONS_DEFAULT=3D3D	INFO MAN NETHACK XTERM_256 SOCKETS
> >SYSTEM_SCREE
> >> > NRC \
> >> > > > +OPTIONS_DEFAULT=3D3D	INFO NETHACK XTERM_256 SOCKETS
> >SYSTEM_SCREENRC=20
> >> > \
> >> > > >  			NCURSES_DEFAULT
> >> > > >  OPTIONS_SINGLE=3D3D		IPC NCURSES
> >> > > >  OPTIONS_SINGLE_IPC=3D3D	SOCKETS NAMED_PIPES
> >> > > >
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > > Should you not have obtained maintainer approval for this first?
> >> > >=3D20
> >> > > And now the package will not include man pages. Can I assign
> >those PRs to=3D
> >> > =3D20
> >> > > you?
> >> > >=3D20
> >> >
> >> > I do think the best approach to this is to drop the MAN page
> >option, it mak=3D
> >> > es
> >> > little sense not to install it. and not add groff as a runtime
> >dependency
> >> > anyway.
> >>=20
> >> I've had this same issue with krb5. Pkg end users expect man pages.
> >>=20
> >> >
> >> > The reason why man(1) is telling the users to install groff(1) is
> >exactly f=3D
> >> > or
> >> > that, the users do decide if he wants to read that manpage on his
> >system an=3D
> >> > d do
> >> > install groff, or he reads it online and do not install it at all.
> >the other
> >> > point is in the future screen(1) might become mandoc compatible.
> >and you wi=3D
> >> > ll
> >> > still grab in the groff(1) dependency.
> >>=20
> >> I'm willing to live with this but it is still disrespectful not to
> >involve=20
> >> the maintainer.
> >>=20
> >> Can I point to this email thread as a precedent if or when I commit
> >to a=20
> >> port maintained by someone else?
> >
> >For sure the maintainer should have been involved! and also my proposal
> >if
> >different from what has been done here. ;)
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Bapt
>=20
> If and when I have the inclination to look at this, I will. In the mean t=
ime patches are welcome.
>=20
https://reviews.freebsd.org/D21463

This is what I do propose

Best regards,
Bapt

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