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Date:      Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:09:26 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Mathew KANNER <mat@cs.mcgill.ca>
Cc:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, "G. Adam Stanislav" <adam@whizkidtech.net>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Indo-European Grammar (was: Laugh: [Fwd: Microsoft Security Bulletin MS01-008])
Message-ID:  <20010210100926.P16260@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010209153743.D18596@cs.mcgill.ca>; from mat@cs.mcgill.ca on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 03:37:43PM -0500
References:  <xzpzofxffa2.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <3A81DDC9.EF6D7D84@originative.co.uk> <3.0.6.32.20010207223155.009d42a0@mail85.pair.com> <20010208110159.E2429@lpt.ens.fr> <xzpzofxffa2.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20010208150641.A15166@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010208193726.04763b10@localhost> <20010209143121.J16260@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20010209153743.D18596@cs.mcgill.ca>

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On Friday,  9 February 2001 at 15:37:43 -0500, Mathew KANNER wrote:
> On Feb 08, Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Thursday,  8 February 2001 at 19:39:21 -0700, Brett Glass wrote:
>>> At 07:06 AM 2/8/2001, Rahul Siddharthan wrote:
>>>
>>>> And I learned of this amusing situation in French: the plural pronoun,
>>>> unlike in English, is gender-biased; it's "elles" only when the gender
>>>> of all parties is feminine, otherwise (for all-masculine or mixed)
>>>> it's "ils".
>>>
>>> Ah, but at least they have the unisex pronoun "on."
>>
>> "on" is masculine.  Yes, it's used to represent females as well.  But
>> that's what we did in English too, until Political Correctness got the
>> better of grammar.
>
> 	Really?  I have a vague memory of being taught that it was
> used when the speaker is referring to a group of people, which he is a
> member of -- no inference on the makeup of the group nor speaker can
> be made,  Much like "we" in English.

You can use it like that as well, unlike "one" in English.

Greg
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