Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 10:30:26 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net> To: "Jeremy Messenger" <mezz7@cox.net> Cc: gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Observations on Gnome-2.14 Message-ID: <20060501173026.9DA8545042@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 01 May 2006 11:39:42 CDT." <op.s8vskgkd9aq2h7@mezz.mezzweb.com>
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> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 11:39:42 -0500 > From: "Jeremy Messenger" <mezz7@cox.net> > > On Mon, 01 May 2006 11:24:34 -0500, Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net> wrote: > > > I have one system running V6-stable that is now running Gnome-2.14. Some > > things are really nice about it, but there are some oddities and some > > things that need touching. > > > > First, an easy one...netspeed_applet needs to be rebuilt. I think a bump > > of PORTREVISION is in order. > > > > When I first started 2.14, I got messages that several icons > > (gnome-calculator, logout, screen-lock) could not be found and were > > displayed as white icons with a red 'X'. But after acknowledging the > > message, all of the icons appeared and work fine. > > > > This might be a race as I am running i386 on an AMD dual-core 4400+ > > Athlon-64 processor and it may be getting something done before things > > are ready. This is also intermittent. It happens about half the time > > when I start Gnome. (I use startx, not gdm.) > > > > On several start operations the icons in the weather applet are > > missing. Other times they appear. Probably the same "can't find icon" > > issue. > > > > gnome-terminal has sometimes crashed on logout from Gnome. I have not > > tried to debug this at all. I do see that the contents of > > .gnome2/session no longer have information on all of the gnome-terminal > > windows. Just a simple command, so I guess gnome-terminal is storing > > this somewhere else. (I need to find out where to debug why at least one > > window never restarts.) > > > > Sessions are a bit messed up. As already reported, all manually > > startup-sessions are gone after the upgrade and must be re-entered. No > > longer is there an ordering option, but this might be settable via the > > "Current Session" tab. I'll paly around with it if I get a little time. > > > > The logout tool no longer has a check-box to save the session. I THINK I > > saved it by going into the "Sessions" prefs and selecting to > > automatically save the session on logout and logging out. I then logged > > back in and de-selected that option. There is still an option (which is > > selected) to "Ask on logout". It appears to be a no-op in 2.14, though. > > > > On several start operations the icons in the weather applet are > > missing. Other times they appear. Probably the same "can't find icon" > > issue. > > > > Noise level issue: we really need a FreeBSD splash. The default Gnome > > splash is just too boring looking. > > > > Problems I was having with calling ssh-add at session start are gone. I > > never reported this, but if I included ssh-add (with gnome-ssh-askpass) > > in the "Startup Programs" the startup would have for between 1 and 3 > > minutes and sometimes the wnck-applet would go into a loop and eat one > > CPU. Killing wnck-applet would fix the problem as it automatically > > restarts. In any case, this issue looks like it is gone! > > > > Big win in performance. Not everything is faster, but many things are > > very noticeably faster. I'll have a better idea about this tomorrow when > > I have a slower system upgraded. My dual-core is new and things always > > seem to be fast, but I think I really like it. > > > > Thanks to the entire Gnome team for the work on this. It has thus far, > > been the least painful Gnome version upgrade I have ever had. > > Try to login in a dummy user and see if you still have the same problems. > My experience of upgrade, I had to clear a several of ~/.* to get GNOME > 2.14 and other apps stable. Mostly are from .gconf* stuff. No joy. I created the dummy user and had pretty much the same issues. Still no obvious wat to save a session other then setting auto-save and then clearing it on the next login. All of the "can't find icon" errors were there, too. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634
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