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Date:      Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:50:11 -0600
From:      Ian Lepore <ian@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Mark R V Murray <mark@grondar.org>
Cc:        Tim Kientzle <tim@kientzle.com>, freebsd-arm <freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org>, ticso@cicely.de
Subject:   Re: Building an ARM/RPI-B release (hacked) on CURRENT/AMD64.
Message-ID:  <1397767811.1124.289.camel@revolution.hippie.lan>
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On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 20:54 +0100, Mark R V Murray wrote:
> On 17 Apr 2014, at 20:14, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>=20
> >=20
> > On Apr 17, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Ian Lepore <ian@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> >>=20
> >> Hmmm.  After a bit of poking around in the llvm code, it looks like =
the
> >> full extent of the support for -ffixed-r9 is that it doesn't conside=
r
> >> that register available for use by the code generator; that's only p=
art
> >> of what u-boot needs. =20
> >=20
> > what=92s the other part? Global register variables like this?
>=20
> Yah. U-boot/Arm is heavily dependant on using R9 (previously R8) as a
> global register variable.
>=20
> >> Some online notes I found for clang 3.5 claim that global register
> >> variables aren't supported, and aren't likely to be any time soon.
> >=20
> > Is that a poke in the eye of uboot, or is it more of a contention tha=
t
> > uboot is moving away from that need?
>=20
> It means that for now I guess we are stuck with using GCC to compile u-=
boot.
>=20
> I=92d mind a lot less if this was done as a port.
>=20
> <thinking mode=3D=93aloud=94>
> Hmm. A port to do what crochet does, without all the FreeBSD/ARM (build=
|install)(world|kernel) stuff?
>=20
> Something that makes an empty <mumble>.img (with only the weird boot bi=
ts in it) as its =93product=94 for later use by the release process might=
 be nice.
>=20
> I=92m guessing (more like hoping) that once the boot bits work, they=92=
ll be pretty stable for a given platform for a while, and the .img file c=
ould be kept under src/release/=85 somewhere. This way, it doesn=92t matt=
er if some humongous GCC port is used for cross-building; this would be o=
nly needed when the boot-bits change.
> <thinking>

I'm not very familiar with crochet, but I'm confused now... Tim K. is
the creator of crochet, and he's the maintainer of the
u-boot-beaglebone-eabi port, which uses the gcc cross-compiler from
ports.  So did Tim not use his own excellent port in crochet?

-- Ian





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