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Date:      Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:44:09 -0700
From:      Lawrence Sica <lomifeh@earthlink.net>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        George Barnett <george@alink.co.za>, bastill@sa.apana.org.au, Sanjay Bhattacharya <sanbh@gmx.net>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Everybody's right, nobody's wrong (was Re: blah blah blah)
Message-ID:  <3D1BCD79.20203@earthlink.net>
References:  <24620.1025143730@www7.gmx.net> <200206270730.g5R7UFf13214@tierzero.apana.org.au> <010801c21dc7$08892be0$c74608c3@spoem> <3D1B6352.26F669BE@mindspring.com>

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Terry Lambert wrote:
> George Barnett wrote:
><snip some>
> 
> One aspect of public philosophy that has always struck me as being
> uniquely American is the idea that the other person's point of view
> has equal validity to your own, regardless of how ridiculous that
> point of view may be.
> 

Don't forget what opnions are like...that is also an american truism... ;)

> This absurd notion permits the peaceful coexistance of athiests,
> Christians, Muslims, Jews, Shintoists, Moonies, Hare Krisna,
> Democrats, Republicans, and any other otherwise fundamentally
> opposed and intolerant groups.
> 
> It has also led to ideas such as Creationism, "medical magnets",
> "New Math", and the idea that taxation *with* representation is
> somehow better than taxation *without* representation, and other
> ideas that clearly defy both logic and common sense.
> 
And sometimes this notion allows all these groups to act as one whole 
for very important reasons.  Take the post 9/11 stuff, the muslim 
blacklash aside.  Also take the recent fiasco with the Pledge of 
Allegiance.  It has gone beyond party or creed or race, and is pretty 
much considered a stupid decision by the judges to say it can't be said 
in schools because it endorses a "god"

> Like the idea that all opposed parties in a discussion can somehow
> still be simultaneously correct, merely because the viewpoints are
> held by individuals, and therefore must be reconcilable, even if it
> is possible to empirically verify that one is right, and all the
> others are wrong.
> 
The idea is to find a common ground and go from there.  I'd say it has 
worked more than not.

> Socrates once concluded that the human mouth contains 36 teeth
> through deductive reasoning alone, when he could have counted them
> and arrived at the non-relativistically correct number of 32.  In
> today's America, we would probably license him as a dentist.
> 

Hey maybe they had 36 back then ;)


--Larry


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