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Date:      Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:44:33 +0200
From:      Siegbert Baude <siegbert.baude@gmx.de>
To:        Nate Puri <natepuri@yahoo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: KDE2 experiences
Message-ID:  <39FB3AB1.C9638FEF@gmx.de>
References:  <20001027192703.874.qmail@web3304.mail.yahoo.com>

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Hi Nate,
just to add my experiences,

> Bugs.  On startup, artsd does not start successfully.
On my system this works for some boots, but not for all. Is there maybe some
sleep during the initialisation scripts too short or missing?

> Kaiman crashes when trying to load mp3 files, rather,
> I get an error that says "artsd not started".
But if not always at launch automatically, I always succeeded in starting artsd
by hand. For Kaiman Iīm just compiling it (I suppose itīs in kdemultimedia2 ?) I
will add my experience, when itīs done.

> Second
> kwrited does not start successfully and I get a crash
> panel.  Third, konsole does not start and I get a
> crash panel.

This is true for me only, if I launch X by kdm. If I do startx from the command
line, those points work fine. Somebody can imagine, what is causing this
behaviour? I will have a close look on my start scripts later on.


> Trying to start the embedded konsole in
> konqueror crashes konqueror. 

Only the konsole crashes here, either X started with kdm or startx. Konqueror
lives on.

> Fourth, konqueror does
> not handle javascript correctly, and yes I did enable
> it.

Even worse: I didnīt enable it, but it executes some code, e.g. automatically
opening new windows. Donīt check out the following link, one very brave guy
posted here in his signature, because it will open new windows until death of
your browser at least (also konqueror killed my X, when I switched to a terminal
to stop it with a kill command.) www.nul.cjb.net . (Worse than any XXX-site I
ever happened to be flooded by cosmic circumstances ;-) )

> Kpm the gtop like app for kde does not get
> compiled.  So the process monitor applet does not
> work.
In which tarball is this? kdeutil? Didnīt install this until now.

> Konqueror does not load all images all the time.
DId you compile QT with GIF-support? This is non-default because of the GIF
patent problems.


> When quitting from the KOShell without saving
> something, it crashes.  It still cannot create devices
> like the cd; keeps giving false error of bad
> permissions.
If not saving, KOShell aks three times instead of only once, but doesnīt crash
here. Also it is able to read files from CD. What exactly do you mean with
"create devices"?

On the kde homepage I read about imap support, but kmail only offers me local
mbox oder pop3. Where must I look for imap support? Or is this another
application?

Hope to read more stuff about this, to be able to check whether I have
misconfigured something or weīre facing common problems.

kdm seems to be kind of small showstopper, but launched by startx I faced no
crashes of any application so far (except the above mentioned javascript problem
with konqueror, which cost one X session).

If we sorted out misconfigurations, whom should we report the errors? Port
maintainer or kde directly? Has anybody tried, if those errors exist in the
Linux version also? What is the correct discussion list for kde related
problems?


Ciao
Siegbert


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