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Date:      Sun, 17 Aug 1997 16:50:18 +0200
From:      "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@freebsd.org>
To:        current@freebsd.org
Cc:        Shimon@i-Connect.Net
Subject:   "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-8"
Message-ID:  <199708171450.QAA07750@desk.jhs.no_domain>

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Each time I read a freebsd list mail item from 
	Simon Shapiro <Shimon@i-Connect.Net>
(on current & stable lists)
using my EXMH 1.6.9 his mail displays in a truly horrible font,
partially thickened (like numbers on a bank cheque, hell to read)
I asked him about it, but he didn't know what I meant, so I tracked it
down, it's the 
	"; charset=iso-8859-8"
component of his
	Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-8
I don't see it from anyone else.

I'd like to know:
- Do other people see this truly horrible font ?
- is his header OK / not OK ?,
- or is it my mail reader (EXMH 1.6.9) throwing a fit ? (& why ?)
  it occurs to me it might be an exmh font scaling problem, as I recall
  I use a larger than standard font.
  (I append my .exmh-defaults at end of mail)
- or some thing else I'v not considered ?

Here's an example of some private mail he sent me, that triggers the problem
when received as a header:

-------
>From POPmail Sun Aug 17 12:00:17 1997
Return-Path: shimon@sendero-ppp.i-connect.net
Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100])
          by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA02930
          for <jhs@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sat, 16 Aug 1997 21:29:48 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 2295 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Aug 1997 04:29:51 -0000
Message-ID: <XFMail.970816212951.Shimon@i-Connect.Net>
X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-alpha [p0] on FreeBSD
Sender: shimon@nomis.i-Connect.Net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <199708151341.PAA00832@wall.jhs.no_domain>
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 21:29:51 -0700 (PDT)
Organization: Atlas Telecom
From: Simon Shapiro <Shimon@i-Connect.Net>
To: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject: Re: Floating Point Exception in make release
X-UIDL: 5f67c7e8b47ca69d77dbaa5ab53eb800

-------

He's not using a MIME encapsulation in the body of mail.

My system:
xlsfonts|grep iso8859-8
-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--0-0-75-75-c-0-iso8859-8
-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-100-100-100-c-80-iso8859-8
-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-80-iso8859-8
-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--0-0-75-75-c-0-iso8859-8
-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-100-100-100-c-60-iso8859-8
-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-8

foreach i (`xlsfonts|grep iso8859-8`)
	echo "$i"
	xfd -fn $i
	end
... all looked normal.

Here are 3 others it blew up on:
	Message-ID: <XFMail.970812111620.Shimon@i-Connect.Net>
	Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
	Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:16:20 -0700 (PDT)

	Message-ID: <XFMail.970809024352.Shimon@i-Connect.Net>
	Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
	Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 02:43:52 -0700 (PDT)

	Message-ID: <XFMail.970809200012.Shimon@i-Connect.Net>
	Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
	Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 20:00:12 -0700 (PDT)


! .exmh-defaults for jhs@freebsd.org
!
! Next 3 reccomended by John Robert LoVerso <john@loverso.southborough.ma.us>
*iconUpLabel:          $flist(newMsgs) Unseen-[info hostname]
*iconDownLabel:        exmh-[info hostname]
*iconSpoolLabel:       $exmh(numUnInced) Spooled-[info hostname]
!
exmh.geometry:  515x772+0+0
! exmh.geometry:  504x738+-2+-1
!
*userLibrary:	~/.tk/exmh
*logEnabled:	0
*logLines:	1000
*flistDebug:	0
*scanProc:	scan
*sendType:	async
*xtermCmd:	xterm -g 80x5 -fn 9x15
*delPrefix:	#
*purgeAge:	14
*replPrefix:	> 
*seditFormatMail:	1
*seditAttemptMhn:	0
*seditKeepOnSend:	0
*seditQuotedPrintable:	automatic
*seditLineLength:	79
*seditAutoSign:	0
*seditSigDashes:	1
*seditSignatureFile:	
*seditColorize:	1
*seditISO:	1
*seditCharset:	iso-8859-1
*seditSpell:	spell
*seditSpellCustom:	exmh-async xterm -fn 9x15 -e ispell
*editCmd:	exmh-async xterm -geometry 80x41 -fn 9x15 -e /usr/bin/vi
*edit2Cmd:	exmh-async emacs
*seditOverride:	0
*seditAfterAsync:	0
*spellCmd:	exmh-async xterm -fn 9x15 -e ispell
*mhnCmd:	mhn
*printCmd:	lpr $file
*psPrintCmd:	lpr -Pps $ile
*unixCmd:	cat $file > /dev/null
*ftextLines:	6
*impliedDirection:	0
*nextGuard:	0
*autoCommit:	1
*commitDialog:	1
*autoPack:	1
*autoSort:	1
*autoSortType:	date
*autoSortCrit:	-textfield keywords
*ftocShowNew:	1
*advanceOnLink:	1
*skipMarked:	1
*cycleBack:	1
*scanWidth:	100
*scanSize:	100
*mimeEnabled:	1
*mimeShowType:	0
*mimeShowPrelude:	0
*mimeFullHeaders:	0
*mimeMaxSubpartsDisplayed:	5
*ftpMethod:	expect
*ftpCommand:	ftp
*showRichCmnds:	0
*showSeparator:	1
*showImage:	1
*mimeFontSize:	140
*mimeTitleSize:	160
*mimeNoteSize:	100
*uriScanForXURIs:	1
*uriScanForURIs:	1
*uriScanLimit:	1000
*uriScanSoftLimit:	1000
*uriViewer:	other
*mimeShowHtml:	0
*uriMosaicApp:	chimera $xuri
*uriNetscapeFlags:	-install
*uriViewerApp:	chimera $xuri
*uriLogOnEnter:	1
*incStyle:	presort
*incOnStartup:	0
*incOnMapping:	0
*incSortFeedback:	1
*xnsGetMail:	0
*scrollbarSide:	left
*scrollSpeed:	1
*scrollAccel:	4
*textConstrainScroll:	0
*textConstrainFtoc:	1
*textContextLines:	2
*textSmoothScroll:	1
*textSelectDelay:	50
*placeToplevel:	1
*fcacheLines:	1
*fcacheSticky:	inbox
*fcacheStickyOff:	0
*fcacheNickNames:	1
*fdispLines:	4
*fl_toplevel:	1
*fdispPopdownStyle:	polygon
*fdispPopdownAction:	navbutton
*fdispPopdownRemove:	leave
*xfaceProg:	
*facesEnabled:	0
*facesRow:	0
*facesDefer:	1
*facesPalette:	
*pgpKeepPass:	1
*pgpRfc822:	0
*pgpChooseKey:	1
*pgpCacheIds:	persistent
*pgpMinMatch:	75
*pgpShowInline:	none
*pgpAutoExtract:	1
*pgpKeyServer:	pgp-public-keys@jpunix.com
*bgAsync:	1
*sendHack:	1
*bgAction:	off
*bgPeriod:	5
*bgSpool:	/var/mail/jhs
*fileselectBigDirHas:	32
*fileselectDotsByDefault:	0
*fileselectHome:	~/mail
*busyStyle:	cursor
*busyCursor:	watch
*busyBitmap:	@hourglass2.bitmap
!!! Saved Window Positions
!!! Sun Aug 17 15:51:42 CEST 1997
!!! Do not edit below here

I'm puzzled, suggestions welcome, Thanks !

Julian
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Julian H. Stacey	jhs@freebsd.org		http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/



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