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Date:      Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:43:39 +0100
From:      Gert Cuykens <gert.cuykens@gmail.com>
To:        Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Cc:        Chris Hodgins <chodgins@cis.strath.ac.uk>
Subject:   Re: xhost +localhost
Message-ID:  <ef60af0905020305433c03cc4c@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNEEDHFAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
References:  <ef60af0905020218193eea1fc9@mail.gmail.com> <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNEEDHFAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>

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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 00:32:23 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt
<tedm@toybox.placo.com> wrote:
> > > Don't want to be rude but do you have a specific reason for running
> > > xscreensaver as root?
> > >
> > > Chris
> >
> > Well the reason is very simple actuale lets pretend we have a user
> > gert. User gert has alot of pictures and music stuff phone numbers
> > user gert dont want does things to be gone. Somebody hacks user gert
> > because user gert uses a screensaver. And the hacker deletes all
> > files. User gert is not happy because he lost everything. Do you think
> > user gert gives a chit that the system was untouched because the
> > hacker did not had root permission ?
> >
> > For me its wrong to think user accounts are not importend because they
> > do for the average window xp single user. They dont care about viruses
> > infection on there system reinstalling everything they care about
> > there files.  So if sreensaver is a securty risc as root i doesnt mean
> > its not a security risck for a user account. The only differens
> > between a root and user should be that users can not read or mess with
> > other users files. The security sould be EXACTLY the same. So if root
> > can not run a screensaver then the users can also not run a
> > screensaver.
> 
> While all of this is very interesting academic, if user Gert is dumb
> enough to leave the console of his UNIX system accessible then user
> Ted can come along and power cycle it into single user mode and wipe his
> disks whether he has the root password or not.
> 
> Or, are you assuming that the 'bios' passwords in the typical PC are
> immune from 60 seconds of CMOS battery removal?
> 
> Ted

Can a non root user shutdown a pc ? PS does your pc have a power cable :)



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