Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 11:08:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Simon Shapiro <shimon@simon-shapiro.org> To: "John S. Dyson" <toor@dyson.iquest.net> Cc: tom@sdf.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, (Mike Smith) <mike@smith.net.au> Subject: Re: DPT install problem Message-ID: <XFMail.980601110847.shimon@simon-shapiro.org> In-Reply-To: <199805300300.WAA05097@dyson.iquest.net>
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On 30-May-98 John S. Dyson wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On 22-May-98 Mike Smith wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > However, there are a couple of things that you personally (and
>> > > >> > other
>> > > >> > concerned users) can do to help the situation.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > - Contribute commentary (as you have), documentation and
>> > > >> > source/
>> > > >> > procedural fixes. Remeber that FreeBSD is a volunteer
>> > > >> > project -
>> > > >> > your support means that it will continue to improve.
>> > > >> > - Donate a DPT controller to our testing pool so that we can
>> > > >> > test
>> > > >> > with it. Chances are we can scrape enough disks together in
>> > > >> > one
>> > > >> > place to meet the 20GB mark if we have one.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I recently donated TWO DPT controllers and FIVE disk drives.
>> > > >> They went
>> > > >> to
>> > > >> two separate FreeBSD prominent figures, but still do not add up
>> > > >> to 20GB.
>> > > >
>> > > > Then we need some accountability from these prominent figures.
>> > > > Where
>> > > > is their feedback on this discussion?
>> > >
>> > Do you want working kernel threads and SMP or DPT support? I am
>> > working
>> > feverishly on the SMP and kernel threads stuff, and physically cannot
>> > do
>> > any more in the day.
>>
>> I just want to know what these people are doing if not answering
>> questions. Guessing and begging users for input is traditional stuff,
>> but if there's a better alternative, I'm all for it.
>>
>> > I do plan to work on the DPT stuff, but I can only do one type of
>> > thing
>> > at a time...
>>
>> Sounds reasonable to me. What we need are some underlings for you to
>> boss around doing your grunt work. JD and the moonshine gang?
>>
> I have worked in mgmt before, I make a much better 'grunt'. :-). Also,
> if we can find someone who can do things more quickly or efficiently,
> and Simon agrees, I am willing to ship the equipment to someone else.
> I consider the equipment as a project resource donated by Simon, and am
> willing to do what I can do to make things move more quickly as needed
> and agreed by everyone concerned!!!
I'd rather have John keep the equipment he has. It is rather old and slow,
and will not make for a good maximal/stress-test system. Having John use a
DPT subsystem for routine development work is already valuable.
Until I can convince DPT that donating a large subsystem to other FreeBSD
resources than myself, I volunteer to continue and stress-test large arrays.
I should remind ourselves that I have in the past (without publishing it)
convinced the DPT folks to run FreeBSD in their test labs, to verify some
specific issues. We can continue and do that. To make the case for such,
I need well documented failure modes, along the guidelines I published on
Friday.
Simon
>
> John
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Sincerely Yours,
Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG
770.265.7340
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