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Date:      Fri, 25 Dec 1998 20:44:45 -0500
From:      bsmith@bfmni.com (Brad Smith)
To:        <freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Read this...
Message-ID:  <000c01be3071$539ba6e0$6403a8c0@comstyle.com>

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Is there something wrong with the mailing list ?? Ive seen this same message
5 times now in 2 days.

Brad

>
>
>> Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>> > Will someone with more courage and experiance than I please speak up
about
>> > this, perhaps contact sun?
>>
>
>> Please _don't_ ask Sun for anything until you have a working port on
>> limited hardware. I doubt that anyone following this list would be
>> prepared to spend $$$ based on what has been said so far. Those people
>> who have access to Sun machines should be able to do a port with neither
>> financial nor moral support from Sun. If you want this sort of support,
>> you have to earn it.
>
>Let me explain the meaning of the word "support" from my personal point of
>view:
>
>1) I haven't any Sun Hardware. I'm a student and I cannot pay 3000$ for a
Sun
>Ultra5, only to "play" with it. I would have an AXi motherboard (good for
>experiments) but it costs too much. So, for the hardware I would have
something
>like 50% of the price (no free hardware, at actual stage). Why Sun could
give
>me/us this: I have not 3000$, and actually there are few persons with an
Ultra
>box, so _if_ Sun wants more developers on this project they must help in
some
>way. This is the situation it's not "charity"... Please note also  the word
>"Open" also means: I can buy it for a good price.
>
>2) Docs, pdf and other things.... On Intel you can find _anything_ about
"how
>it boots", "how it works", books and docs. If you go in a bookstore you can
>find many books about "everything". Not the same situation on Sparc.
>So again: "Open" means I can read "how it works" without paying 500$...
>
>3) Moral support. Actually, if Sun (SME) will put something on-line about
the
>harware we can do a good job (something that works/boots on limited
hardware)
>with no moral support. We can do experiments where "I don't know how it
works"
>and read where "it's documented at page..."
>
>Thanks for youe time 8)
>
>
>
>Ciao Ciao
>       Paolo Di Francesco
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