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Date:      Mon, 09 Jul 2012 13:53:14 -0700
From:      Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Jonathan McKeown <j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)
Message-ID:  <4FFB44BA.3040208@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <201207091533.08963.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>
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On 07/09/2012 06:33, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> On Monday 09 July 2012 09:34:34 Avleen Vig wrote:
>> The issue is also one of barrier-to-entry. By removing `dig` and
>> `host`, I think we're making things unnecessarily more difficult for
>> people who don't *know* FreeBSD. `dig` and `host` a universally
>> standard tools for doing DNS lookups. Taking them away in base to
>> replace them with something else just seems like something that won't
>> really *help* users.
> 
> Yes. So we should change the base system so that by default it does a database 
> lookup whenever you type an unrecognised command - to lower the barrier to 
> entry.

Right.

> We should also change the base system to remove the most commonly used 
> tools for doing DNS lookups, to.... what was the reason again?

It's been covered at length in this thread.

We get it, change is hard.

Doug

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