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Date:      Tue, 02 Sep 2014 17:53:52 +0200
From:      Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>
To:        Brandon Allbery <allbery.b@gmail.com>
Cc:        "pkg@freebsd.org" <pkg@freebsd.org>, "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org>, "current@freebsd.org" <current@freebsd.org>, "ports@freebsd.org" <ports@freebsd.org>, "mva@freebsd.org" <mva@freebsd.org>, Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool
Message-ID:  <5405E810.8000400@sorbs.net>
In-Reply-To: <CAKFCL4XUoYK2P8njdG%2BR9ZnxufuFmA8pkeCn_JsfG3zpQWYBWQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Brandon Allbery wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> This is my only option - however, I suspect I'm already f**ked - my
>> build servers kicked off at 4am and the non pkg jails automatically
>> converted themselves to pkg.. the pkg jails obviously continued...
>> however I now have a repo that contains half pkg versions in the same
>> directory structure and indexes as the pkg_install structure...
>>
>>     
>
> So, the flip side of enterprise software management is that you probably
> should not be integrating a rolling release like ports into what is
> supposed to be a stable verified environment in the first place.
> *Especially* not via cron jobs with no supervision. At the very least, your
> jails should be working from a local ports tree (or packages via
> poudriere), with cherry-picking of locally tested patches.
>
>   
The roll until they get a stable base (using Jenkins as the controller)
- they've been rolling since a patch to DBIx-SearchBuilder (that I
created and submitted), which out came the DBD::Pg update to 3.3.0 and
the subsequent blacklisting of it for RT 4.x and then the tcl breakage
around mid August until 2 days ago...  So yeah not that stupid.

-- 
Michelle Sullivan
http://www.mhix.org/




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