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Date:      Tue, 1 Apr 2003 18:32:49 -0800
From:      Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>
To:        stable@freebsd.org
Cc:        Jarkko Santala <jake@iki.fi>
Subject:   Re: 4.8-RELEASE vs SA-03:07
Message-ID:  <20030402023249.GB7705@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net>
In-Reply-To: <20030402022110.GA6181@rot13.obsecurity.org>
References:  <20030401141454.N43325-100000@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> <87znnaw7vq.fsf@pooh.honeypot.net> <20030401224035.R474@trillian.santala.org> <20030401222116.GB5246@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20030402021244.GA7705@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030402022110.GA6181@rot13.obsecurity.org>

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On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 06:21:10PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 06:12:44PM -0800, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> 
> > I think this does not automaticly follow. If you use the -RC label for
> > identifying the release when it's in a state of final QA and not to
> > identify the release when it's in -ALPHA or -BETA state, then you avoid
> > using the -RELEASE label when it's still possible that tags slide.
> 
> And what about the last-minute (but easily fixed) bug that is
> discovered after the -RELEASE tag goes down, whenever that happens in
> the process?  Either you slide the tag to fix the bug or you don't.
> That's what the original poster was talking about.

If you use the -RELEASE label as a formal label while using the -RC
label during final QA, you don't fix bugs once you put down the
-RELEASE label, because you don't slide it.

An equivalent situation is when you find a bug when mirrors are
being populated. Do you stop that to rebuild the release with a
fix? [rethorical question]

There's always an ultimate moment before which you can correct
and adjust and after which you're f*cked. We don't have this
moment defined by a tag, but it's not uncommon to have the -RELEASE
tag define that moment. I think this is what Jarkko expected (ie
having the -RELEASE tag define the release, no matter if it's DOA).

-- 
 Marcel Moolenaar	  USPA: A-39004		 marcel@xcllnt.net



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