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Date:      Thu, 04 Feb 2016 16:18:05 +0100
From:      Pietro Cerutti <gahr@FreeBSD.org>
To:        marino@freebsd.org
Cc:        ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, owner-ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r407270 - head/ports-mgmt/portmaster
Message-ID:  <cfb249942314fd667f3af9e72f4315af@gahr.ch>
In-Reply-To: <56B36ACE.1010506@marino.st>
References:  <201601261123.u0QBNcvL091258@repo.freebsd.org> <8b37e4951fc45b4f1eeaf5eb67f76804@gahr.ch> <56B36ACE.1010506@marino.st>

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On 2016-02-04 16:14, John Marino wrote:
> On 2/4/2016 3:54 PM, Pietro Cerutti wrote:
>> On 2016-01-26 12:23, John Marino wrote:
>> I see ports-mgmt/synth is under heavy development, good.
>> I have seen a fairly large number of commits to that port lately, and
>> from what I've read in the commit messages, compatibility is not 
>> really
>> taken care of at this point. I seem to remember one commit where one
>> option changed meaning, another fixing a corruption issue, etc..
>> This is *all good*, really, it's an indication that the project is
>> progressing.
>> But would you honestly advise people to use it in production?
> 
> Yes.
> It's not at 1.00 yet.  I'm getting lots of feedback and testing, and 
> the
> commits are a reflect of that.  When there is no more feedback, I'll
> move it to 1.00.
> 
> I could have picked another name instead of repurposing a command, but
> for the long term, changing the command now to something intuitive is a
> small price to pay.
> 
> 
>> portmaster had its limitations, but I always found it to be reliable. 
>> At
>> least, it wouldn't change the meaning of options under my nose from 
>> one
>> commit to the next one.
> 
> It's a beta/release candidate before the first release.  I think it's
> permissible.  Not ideal, but this would be the time to do it.
> 
> By the way (for everyone), why not at least *try* Synth before 
> declaring
> portmaster good enough?  There were some die-hard portmaster users that
> changed over immediately and did not look back.  Some poudriere users
> have changed, but not all (which is okay as poudriere is a fine tool).
> But I would advise actually given Synth an honest test and then remark
> on it.

Fair enough. Let's just be clear and cautious when suggesting people to 
switch to beta software for their production needs.

I'd be more than happy to give synth a go, but I won't change my scripts 
until I'm sure I won't have to change them every other day.

Thanks for your work :)

-- 
Pietro Cerutti
gahr@FreeBSD.org



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