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Date:      Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:46:40 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@FreeBSD.ORG>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sbin/newfs newfs.8
Message-ID:  <200112101846.fBAIkee47815@apollo.backplane.com>
References:  <200111271953.fARJrFc88452@freefall.freebsd.org> <3C10F171.FEE996EB@FreeBSD.org>

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:This is very questionable topic, at least from the space efficience
:POV. For example, I found that on my development system using 16:2
:(5-CURRENT, /usr/ports + /usr/src) some 300MB are wasted in fragments
:compared with the same partition formatted with 8:1. I would suggest
:to extend this para explaining that 16:2 could result in a huge space
:wastage when there are large number of small files on the fs (such as
:/usr/ports or /usr/src) and 8:1 is better suited for such cases.
:
:
:-Maxim

    Interesting.  I just ran a test using VN for /usr/ports:

Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on	(512/4K)
/dev/vn0c     3943361   114700  3513193     3%    /mnt

Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on	(1K/8K)
/dev/vn0c     4065694   154837  3585602     4%    /mnt

Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on	(2K/16K)
/dev/vn0c     4129310   251300  3547666     7%    /mnt

    So /usr/ports alone will eat 100MB of additional disk space on a
    2K/16K filesystem, which is quite significant.


    /usr/src has these characteristics:

Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on	(1K/8K)
/dev/vn0c     4065694  1002597  2737842    27%    /mnt
Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on	(2K/16K)
/dev/vn0c     4129310  1046374  2752592    28%    /mnt

    /usr/src isn't so bad in my test, only 44 MBytes larger, which makes
    sense because the average file size is larger then 1K anyway (so
    2K/16K wins over 1K/8K for files > 1K and < 2K in size).

    I didn't think /usr/ports would lose so badly.  It is definitely food
    for thought.  But I also think that /usr/src validates our prior
    discussion for 'general purpose' filesystems.

					-Matt
					Matthew Dillon 
					<dillon@backplane.com>

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