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Date:      Thu, 28 Jan 2016 20:00:37 +0300
From:      Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To:        Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Packaging the FreeBSD base system with pkg(8)
Message-ID:  <20160128170037.GR37895@zxy.spb.ru>
In-Reply-To: <56AA3D54.5020502@freebsd.org>
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On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:09:56AM -0500, Allan Jude wrote:

> >> Yes, but but real usage of it would happen in a second step because of many
> >> rought edges to be deal with. but yes the information would be available
> >>
> >> see:
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br6izhH5P1I
> >> and
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7px6ktoDAI
> >>
> >> for a bigger view of what happened (note that some detail my have change a bit,
> >> the overall remains the same)
> > 
> > What about upgrade strongly outdated system?
> > For example 11.0 at time 18.0? I.e. packages for 11.0 don't available,
> > pkg from 11.0 don't undertund package base from 18.0 and etc.
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> 
> According to our current release schedule, FreeBSD 18.0 will not come
> out for 35 years (2051).

Schedule may be changed.
How you calculate this? As I see next mayor release gone in 2 year.
18-11=7, 14 years, in 2030.
Ok, let 15.0 or 16.
I am work from FreeBSD 2.0, I am use (now) installation with 5.4, why
I can't planed about 11 to 18 upgrade?

> The general approach would appear to be just downloading new packages
> and updating the system. For a drastic upgrade like that, you'd likely
> have to build a newer version of pkg from ports.

You kidding. Ports from 18.0 cant't be build on 11.0. This trivial
expirence, ports tree incomatible change every 5-6 years.

> The approach for offering an upgrade from 10.x to 11.0 will be the more
> interesting endeavour.

I am guess this is already study.
My interests in long run.



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