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Date:      Thu, 27 Aug 2015 11:33:36 +0930
From:      "O'Connor, Daniel" <darius@dons.net.au>
To:        Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@freebsd.org>
Cc:        NGie Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, Xin LI <d@delphij.net>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Read-only /usr/obj/ no longer kosher?
Message-ID:  <516778C3-2B0E-4F6C-9225-C5218B0A349A@dons.net.au>
In-Reply-To: <20150826225512.GF1172@garage.freebsd.pl>
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> On 27 Aug 2015, at 08:25, Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 03:32:35PM -0700, NGie Cooper wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Xin Li <delphij@delphij.net> wrote:
>>> On 08/25/15 14:55, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote:
>>>>> Now that I think of it, it might have been that I did
>>>>> buildworld/buildkernel before -p1. Then freebsd-update updated
>>>>> newvers.sh and then I was trying to do installworld.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, I can now reproduce it with source updated to -p2.
>>> 
>>> Yes, that's because freebsd-version.sh is generated from the files (but
>>> it's not clear to me whether if it's a bug or a feature that 'make
>>> install' checks if it's up-to-date and decides to regenerate it...).
>> 
>> It's a quirk for sure. If you change the behavior, people will
>> definitely complain as they will now need to go back and rebuild
>> everything.
> 
> What we have now is misleading. People should recompile. It is rather
> rare to see security advisory which bumps only patch level and something
> that doesn't require recompilation (eg. a shell script). Current
> behaviour would make people think they are running latest patch level
> because freebsd-version says so, eventhough they only did 'make
> installworld' without rebuilding affected binaries.

So..
How hard would it be to force CC/CXX to /usr/bin/false during installworld?

--
Daniel O'Connor
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are so many of them to choose from."
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