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Date:      Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:46:18 +0200
From:      Marc Olzheim <marcolz@stack.nl>
To:        Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Matthias Buelow <mkb@incubus.de>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?
Message-ID:  <20050719094618.GB10127@stack.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20050719092803.GA10127@stack.nl>
References:  <20050608001306.3FB1F43D5C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <42A6C7CE.9000002@incubus.de> <200506080908.02478.fcash@ocis.net> <42A71AE1.8020300@incubus.de> <6.2.1.2.0.20050608134054.06b8ccb0@64.7.153.2> <20050608180428.GA42445@stack.nl> <20050719092803.GA10127@stack.nl>

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On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 11:28:03AM +0200, Marc Olzheim wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:04:28PM +0200, Marc Olzheim wrote:
> > > >I remember 5.2.1 panicking left and right, on several machines, it w=
as
> > > >completely unusable.  Maybe we just live in different universes.
> > >=20
> > > Me too, but a lot has changed since 5.2.1 which at the time was I thi=
nk was=20
> > > called a preview.  The topic is 5.4R.  What parts of the OS do you fe=
el are=20
> > > not production ready as compared to 4.X ?
> >=20
> > Personnally, when upgrading from 4.x to 5.x, we ran into the following
> > 3 issues that are still not fixed in 5.4:
> >=20
> > kern/80617:
> > Hangup writing large blocks to NFS mounted FS    (Patches available)
> > Not exremely important: just don't do that.
> >=20
> > kern/79208:
> > i387 libm's floorf(), ceilf() and truncf()       (Fixed in RELENG_5)
> > PITA when running threaded calculations.
> >=20
> > kern/78824
> > socketpair()/close() race condition              (Fixed in CURRENT)
> > Patch will be MFC'd to RELENG_5 soon.
> >=20
> > Anyway: you won't catch me running an unpatched 5.4 system... I'd say
> > stick with RELENG_5 for the time being.
>=20
> Since I can't seem to keep any recent RELENG_5 kernel up and running
> atm. I'd change my viewpoint to run 5.4 and apply all necessary
> stability patches yourself. I'll prepare a patchset...

ARGH, nevermind, 5.4-release-p4 crashes on:

kern/83375
Fatal trap 12 cloning a pty                     (Broken in 5.4-7.x)

I'll have to revert to 4.10 or 4.11 for our servers, until I can manage
to keep a single test machine up and rnuning... :-(

Marc

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