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Date:      Sun, 1 Sep 2013 19:28:07 +0100
From:      David Chisnall <theraven@freebsd.org>
To:        Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>
Cc:        "Sam Fourman Jr." <sfourman@gmail.com>, toolchain@freebsd.org, Boris Samorodov <bsam@passap.ru>, FreeBSD Current <current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: GCC withdraw
Message-ID:  <6668F65C-812F-4069-83CE-7F8CF3316527@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20130901180350.GA12351@lonesome.com>
References:  <20130822200902.GG94127@funkthat.com> <201308291344.25562.jhb@freebsd.org> <A981C965-D625-458B-B0AB-171C983AEA42@FreeBSD.org> <201308301041.18874.jhb@freebsd.org> <20130901180350.GA12351@lonesome.com>

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On 1 Sep 2013, at 19:03, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote:

> If this is the case, IMHO:

I was going to quote the whole mail, but actually this is enough.  As I =
have already said in this thread, there is no such plan.  I repeat, for =
those who missed it the first time:

On 30 Aug 2013, at 16:11, David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> I am not proposing:
>=20
> ...
>=20
> - To deprecate any architectures
>=20
> - To break any architectures


If a platform ends up without a working toolchain in a few years and =
there is no way (LLVM, recent GCC, heavily patched old GCC, =
vendor-supplied toolchain) of building it, then we will have to make the =
decision about its future.  Whether that means getting the Foundation =
and / or some other interested body to pay for someone to work on a =
toolchain or dropping support is an issue for stakeholders in the =
platform. =20

We will probably have to make this call about at least IA64 in a couple =
of years, and possibly some PowerPC and SPARC variants, but it's not a =
decision that needs to be made any time soon.  I know SemiHalf does a =
lot of embedded FreeBSD work with PowerPC and a few people do with =
SPARC, so there are definitely people with vested interests in =
maintaining those two platforms.  I'd honestly be surprised if IA64 is =
around in two years (mind you, I've been expecting it to die for the =
last five, so I'm willing to be surprised again), but maybe there will =
be a lot of cheap second-hand IA64 hardware on the market as all of the =
big customers switch to something else reviving interest in the =
platform...

David


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