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Date:      Sat, 02 Mar 2019 14:17:10 +0000
From:      "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>, Mark Millard via freebsd-hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, Konstantin Belousov <kib@freebsd.org>, bde@freebsd.org, FreeBSD PowerPC ML <freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: powerpc64 head -r344018 stuck sleeping problems: th->th_scale * tc_delta(th) overflows unsigned 64 bits sometimes [patched failed]
Message-ID:  <9993.1551536230@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: <20190302105652.GD68879@kib.kiev.ua>
References:  <D3D7E9F4-9A5E-4320-B3C8-EC5CEF4A2764@yahoo.com> <20190228145542.GT2420@kib.kiev.ua> <20190228150811.GU2420@kib.kiev.ua> <962D78C3-65BE-40C1-BB50-A0088223C17B@yahoo.com> <28C2BB0A-3DAA-4D18-A317-49A8DD52778F@yahoo.com> <20190301112717.GW2420@kib.kiev.ua> <679402FF-907C-43AF-B18C-8C9CC857D7A6@yahoo.com> <6669.1551473821@critter.freebsd.dk> <210dfd0f50ee6b1149c914ee503502654eb5f328.camel@freebsd.org> <20190302105652.GD68879@kib.kiev.ua>

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In message <20190302105652.GD68879@kib.kiev.ua>, Konstantin Belousov writes:

>Using more than two timehands increases a chance of reader to try to
>use outdated timehands.

No, using only two timehands increase the chance that the reader tries
to use the timehand which is being updated.

As long as the reader does not use the timehand being updated, using
a one or two generations old timehand is OK.

At worst a frequency change happened since then, in which case the
timestamp will be "delta-f * delta-t" wrong.  Delta-f is in 1e-7
territory on a system running ntpd(8), so this is below noise level
for anything but high-precision timekeeping.

The target-value for delta-t was "a few milliseconds" when I wrote
timecounters, if somebody has changed that since, I hope they did
their math first.

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