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Date:      Mon, 02 Mar 1998 17:48:19 -0800 (PST)
From:      Simon Shapiro <shimon@simon-shapiro.org>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, blkirk@float.eli.net, jdn@acp.qiv.com, wilko@yedi.iaf.nl, tlambert@primenet.com, sbabkin@dcn.att.com
Subject:   Re: SCSI Bus redundancy...
Message-ID:  <XFMail.980302174819.shimon@simon-shapiro.org>
In-Reply-To: <19980303084608.56831@freebie.lemis.com>

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On 02-Mar-98 Greg Lehey wrote:
 
...

> That's not the point.  OK, we were talking about RAID 5 here, which
> also has parity blocks, but the point is that if you add another disk,
> you're effectively adding another block every n blocks in the file
> system address space.  It requires some non-trivial data movement to
> rearrange all the data (more specifically, except for the first n (n =
> old number of drives) blocks, you must move *everything*, and you must
> recalculate parity for every stripe.

Not quite.  The [parity is not in the filesystem.  It is in the ``device''.
 The filesystem sees a plain, old LBA addressable ``disk''.  If a RAID-5
array grows, the ``disk'' will grow by having its last block address be
(old_size - 1) + increment.

> My question ("How can that work?") was based on the misassumption that
> this would be too much work to be justifiable.

``Justifiable'' is a relative term.  If the cost is 30% reduction in
perfromance vs. shutdown of service for 2 hours, that may be real cheap.
Some of the systems we work on measure downtime in minutes/year, and number
of shutdowns in once/several_years.  In that scenario, a customer may find
this ability, as complex as it may be, quite attractive.

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Sincerely Yours, 

Simon Shapiro
Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG                      Voice:   503.799.2313

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