Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 11:24:12 -0700 From: "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> To: Ian Lepore <ian@FreeBSD.org> Cc: John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@freebsd.org>, Ngie Cooper <ngie@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r318250 - in head: etc etc/newsyslog.conf.d etc/syslog.d tools/build/mk Message-ID: <60A3FDE1-F68E-49D5-972F-A0C8993E0FEE@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0B1B76CF-9CC4-422B-8356-AE425413850B@gmail.com> References: <201705131537.v4DFbgWV045290@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <E92037DB-3739-4BA9-BC96-A50855F19B04@gmail.com> <CANCZdfpmcfU9YCxgZ%2Bi3AnPW77TPk1MRu2msWJ4t-rPE90SCiw@mail.gmail.com> <2229085.lB46rKsq7o@ralph.baldwin.cx> <1494870201.59865.103.camel@freebsd.org> <0B1B76CF-9CC4-422B-8356-AE425413850B@gmail.com>
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--Apple-Mail=_079F2EEA-844F-442B-8099-418FC0674678 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On May 15, 2017, at 10:47, Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya) = <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On May 15, 2017, at 10:43, Ian Lepore <ian@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >=20 > =E2=80=A6 >=20 >> That's only a good argument for keeping the lines in the monolithic >> file if those lines will be ignored when a file in the .conf.d >> directory provides conflicting config. Otherwise my embedded product >> that drops different rules for rotating /var/log/messages into = .conf.d >> STILL has to programmatically edit the monolithic file to remove the >> standard rule(s). >=20 > Bingo. This is part of the reason why I did this, apart from = being selfish in not wanting to handle a handful of unnecessary entries = in newsyslog/syslogd on all of my systems where I set these knobs to no. > Literally all I did was `dd+p` in vim in the new files. I didn=E2=80=99t= add or subtract any overall entries. And for context, we (Isilon) run newsyslog more frequently than upstream = (sometimes every couple minutes, sometimes multiple times an hour/day), = attributing to unnecessary creation and modification of log files (like = this) that we (Isilon) don=E2=80=99t care about at all, which causes = other potential issues with root media wear, potential for filesystem = corruption, reduced number of available inodes/space because it = allocates at least the frag size for a file, etc. Plus with the number of entries we have in syslog.conf (an order of = magnitude larger than upstream), having to walk a linked list to = evaluate how to handle messages when putting them out in log files does = tend to add up with all of the logging we do on our appliances (which is = considerably more chatty than I=E2=80=99ve seen other appliance vendors = that I=E2=80=99ve worked for). Thanks, -Ngie --Apple-Mail=_079F2EEA-844F-442B-8099-418FC0674678 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJZGfJMAAoJEPWDqSZpMIYVmgEP/R/ysZiFHgtONDs4m76Eyeue UuKcusElG+sg2SKTe/V2a6HDaEgoa57A6HDxNzQ34KvOmiDvAord1B6oqeAEPkZx a1dAknhsLun9yLD2eGJWeoqm5jhl8HBUW8dV+Y7L4r9zKBb/c3b50742FAzKXtg/ 4JddGGWe7SRw4fZiIFxi6MR7b3K1h93CuN5m00uXflkJL5sfisv+ZBF2aXAzulB8 Sj8O3C6aCdRGi3xCQbUmR6tx8eg8DlZ/yaUtWaHBd8HaDVYcuptnn6i2qKQann7V WY/iRbfBGRNUQ01HTnunEt/wAwoRIhmnv2HO6wmhrfdM1kttuMGZU76BmNBZisnU shVe0luZACW0rFlOPW7aLh2HSQsQJq7zXLmv4w5pgcH+0mxH7ud3Sf9tU8kF1KVj +nt6n1b80A66NR0elYmrw64zrfQAA0radI9pvt6jgJ29qRwSbo9CDbvl1Fl05DkB Mxe1hSO7SpCxW8NreNaJMD4DeRbJ5q4rcVZHQPo6vpBXbSUPdvbS3R3oc1jfRHG8 95VObJYqXjnwo6Hb1y/DLG4OV8kj8sBNsckCd8NYub61BdiCBcZ+dfCzNVnmh7Ki xoXXJpXYyU2Rq59n9UyvbhEeSzmoYySVlhsagol6YXUKMjjhUUBZ0ae5gaCZTb0D +qjnmTNlAFj5rHLJ5odB =RwyB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_079F2EEA-844F-442B-8099-418FC0674678--
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