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Date:      Wed, 14 Jun 2017 23:22:04 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>,  FreeBSD Release Engineering Team <re@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Next up on creating armv7 MACHINE_ARCH: pre FCP stage
Message-ID:  <CANCZdfqw4dwkrMtNO9zpdnuXkrmVrWf_M4Odcn5MY%2B0jz7h_dA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:

> While the kernel doesn't really need an armv7 support, there will be a
> better match to other systems if we create a armv7 MACHINE_ARCH. This will
> be in addition to the armv6 MACHINE_ARCH we have today. This will allow us
> to create a package set optimized for armv7 as well as armv6. While it is
> true the RPI 1 is the only system that needs armv6 binaries, it's quite
> popular and the Raspberry Pi folks keep creating new variants with the same
> chip. It would also let us get the package stuff spun up and working before
> we mess with armv6.
>
> This would also separate the fate of armv6 and armv7 support at a later
> time, but the weak consensus I've heard appears to be that the time isn't
> yet right to discuss retiring armv6 support...
>

I've created a new FCP for this. You can comment on it at
https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/pull/6 but the FCP number may change since
the allocation isn't official. I've created this on the belief that
everybody here is either agnostic or fully supports this path. The FCP
tries to enumerate the work and impact, but currently needs your help to
flesh things out. I've done a first pass, but it's lame still.

This is one of the first FCPs, so I'm going to use it a little as test case
for the larger thing.  There will be bumps. Feels may get bruised, but if
so accept my apologies and help me do better in the future.

I cc'd the re@ as a heads up that this may be coming down the pike and that
discussions so far have been super hand-wavey on the RE@ side of things.
I'd like to know what the actual impact will be so we can document it. At
this stage, it's still in the draft stage and nothing is certain. This is
my call for feedback, but call it 'pre-feedback' if I read FCP-0 wrong and
am doing it wrong :) My gut tells me that to make my doc better, do it on
the pull request. To raise serious issues that need to be discussed, reply
to this message.

To talk about the many flavors of Rpi, about unified releases, 32-bit ports
to A-53, or any other odd tangents, please do that in arm@, but I'd humbly
request a new subject.

Comments?

Warner



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