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Date:      Sun, 30 Jun 2002 22:58:43 +0200
From:      Alessandro de Manzano <adm@unixmania.net>
To:        Doug Barton <DougB@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        John Long <fbsd1@sstec.com>, security@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: named 8.3.2-T1B vulnerable?
Message-ID:  <20020630225843.A20498@libero.sunshine.ale>
In-Reply-To: <3D1F6BEF.582E44D9@FreeBSD.org>; from DougB@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 01:37:03PM -0700
References:  <5.1.0.14.2.20020629142257.0221e050@mail.sstec.com> <20020629170827.K5428-100000@master.gorean.org> <20020630192440.A18140@libero.sunshine.ale> <3D1F6BEF.582E44D9@FreeBSD.org>

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On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 01:37:03PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:

> 	Correct. There is currently a make.conf option for NO_BIND. In

yes, I knew it but I totally forgot about it ;)

> addition, some of us are working on a more thorough solution which will
> add some magic to the bsd.*.mk files so that you can put
> PORT_REPLACES_BASE_FOO in your /etc/make.conf, and it will automatically
> imply NO_FOO as well. Currently I'm testing a final buildworld for the

yup, should be useful :-)

> > More, I'll get an entry in the installed packages database for BIND
> > 8.3.3 that is "dangerous", since if I'll ever pkg_delete it I'll lost
> > the real/overwritten BIND...
> 
> 	Yep. One of the things I'm adding to my little patch is to change the
> name of the port from foo-version to foo-system-version when installing
> to give you a clue as to what's about to happen. BUT, you are absolutely

IMHO the current system of -DSOMETHING is good, maybe just a couple of
suggestions: use a standard name (PORT_REPLACES_BASE_xxx  as you said),
maybe it's already this way, I don't know :)) and/or a dialog(1) menu to
choose whether overwrite base components or not :)
Sometimes people 'forgot' to read into Makefiles to look for every
possible -D symbols..


> right in saying that this option is dangerous. However, there are lots
> of ways to shoot yourself in the foot here...  it's up to you to find a
> better target. :)  Also, the system will still run without BIND, unless

yes, of course :) you're right

> of course you're using that particular system as a name server. I have

a couple boxes of mine are actually public name servers, so I'll
absolutely upgrade them to 8.3.3 tomorrow morning.
This evening I upgraded my home box in this way to learn :)

> been using the "port overwrites base" stuff at Yahoo! for almost a year,
> and we haven't had any catastrophes yet. 
>  
> Hope this helps,

Yes, defintely! Thanks a lot ! :-)

-- 

bye!

Ale


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