Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:17:21 -0700 From: Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> To: Jeff Roberson <jroberson@jroberson.net> Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux kernel compatability Message-ID: <D3E4F3D4-55FD-48B5-B175-CF152B9B3AE4@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1101051413070.1450@desktop> References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1101031017110.1450@desktop> <20110103220153.69cf59e0@kan.dnsalias.net> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1101031859290.1450@desktop> <20110104082252.45bb5e7f@kan.dnsalias.net> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1101041030120.1450@desktop> <20110105124045.6a0ddd1a@kan.dnsalias.net> <20110105175926.GA2101@vniz.net> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1101051413070.1450@desktop>
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On Jan 5, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Jeff Roberson wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jan 2011, Andrey Chernov wrote: >=20 >> On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 12:40:45PM -0500, Alexander Kabaev wrote: >>>> I have heard this argument about the linuxulator and what we're >>>> really talking about is slipping FreeBSD marketshare. I don't = share >>>> the view that the linuxulator futhered this slip but rather my view >>>> is that it allows us to stay relevant in areas where companies can >>>> not justify an independent FreeBSD effort. Adobe is a good example >>>> of this. >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> It compounded the Adobe's reluctance to work on portable flash = player. >>=20 >> I agree with Alexander even more. We don't need _any_ Linux emulator = in >> the tree and even in the ports. Flash player is a good example of how >> Linux emulator is harmful: instead of sending tons of complaints to = Adobe >> to force them to make native FreeBSD version, users tends to install = Flash >> via emulator and got all its pain as result. >=20 > There are not enough freebsd desktop users to justify the effort even = if everyone of them sent an email in. >=20 > I once offered to port recent vmware to BSD for free and they turned = me down because they didn't want to deal with it. >=20 > We have not been marginalized in this space because we have an = emulator. We just don't have the marketshare in many areas. If = anything, these emulators improve our marketshare. I agree entirely. Companies look at marketshare and ability to turn = more revenue than costs (i.e. profit). Like Jeff, I've had my share of = dealing with companies who have made a conscious to support or not = support FreeBSD based on those factors. Petitions and letters sound = great on Slashdot, but don't work in the real world. Emulation = increases marketshare. Scott
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