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Date:      Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:16:41 +0200
From:      Sebastiaan van Erk <sebster@sebster.com>
To:        Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Stable SATA pci card for FreeBSD 6.x/7.0
Message-ID:  <489852B9.9060708@sebster.com>
In-Reply-To: <20080805121632.GA88406@eos.sc1.parodius.com>
References:  <48982B58.4000406@sebster.com> <20080805121632.GA88406@eos.sc1.parodius.com>

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Hi,

Sorry for forgetting to paste the smart details. Pressed send too quickly.

However, when I did check the smart stats again, I noticed I'd been 
smartctling the wrong disk (duh), and smart was not enabled on the new 
disks. I enabled it now, and it comes with a bunch of warnings and other 
stuff....

Considering it wasn't enabled, maybe the errors wouldn't show up anyway, 
but here's the output of the smartctl command just in somebody sees 
something to worry about in it... (The ECC recovery count looks rather 
high, I tried -F samsung and -F samsung2 but that didn't help).

Regards,
Sebastiaan

root@piglet(ttyp3:59:0):~# smartctl -a /dev/ad4
smartctl version 5.37 [i386-portbld-freebsd6.3] Copyright (C) 2002-6 
Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     SAMSUNG HD103UJ
Serial Number:    S13PJ1BQ606865
Firmware Version: 1AA01112
User Capacity:    1,000,204,886,016 bytes
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   7
ATA Standard is:  Not recognized. Minor revision code: 0x52
Local Time is:    Tue Aug  5 15:15:20 2008 CEST

==> WARNING: May need -F samsung or -F samsung2 enabled; see manual for 
details.

SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00) Offline data collection activity
                                         was never started.
                                         Auto Offline Data Collection: 
Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine 
completed
                                         without error or no self-test 
has ever
                                         been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:                 (11811) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:                    (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                                         Auto Offline data collection 
on/off support.
                                         Suspend Offline collection upon new
                                         command.
                                         Offline surface scan supported.
                                         Self-test supported.
                                         Conveyance Self-test supported.
                                         Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                                         power-saving mode.
                                         Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
                                         General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:        ( 198) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (  21) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE 
UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   253   253   051    Pre-fail 
Always       -       0
   3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   090   090   011    Pre-fail 
Always       -       4050
   4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age 
Always       -       4
   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail 
Always       -       0
   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   253   253   051    Pre-fail 
Always       -       0
   8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0025   100   100   015    Pre-fail 
Offline      -       0
   9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age 
Always       -       230
  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0033   100   100   051    Pre-fail 
Always       -       0
  11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age 
Always       -       0
  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age 
Always       -       4
  13 Read_Soft_Error_Rate    0x000e   253   253   000    Old_age 
Always       -       0
183 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       0
184 Unknown_Attribute       0x0033   100   100   099    Pre-fail  Always 
       -       0
187 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       0
188 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       0
190 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   056   056   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       740818988
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   052   052   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       48 (Lifetime Min/Max 0/12324)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       153751007
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   100   000    Old_age 
Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       0
201 Soft_Read_Error_Rate    0x000a   253   253   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 0
Warning: ATA Specification requires self-test log structure revision 
number = 1
No self-tests have been logged.  [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]


SMART Selective Self-Test Log Data Structure Revision Number (0) should be 1
SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 0
Warning: ATA Specification requires selective self-test log data 
structure revision number = 1
  SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
     1        0        0  Not_testing
     2        0        0  Not_testing
     3        0        0  Not_testing
     4        0        0  Not_testing
     5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
   After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

root@piglet(ttyp3:60:0):~#


Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 12:28:40PM +0200, Sebastiaan van Erk wrote:
>> However, a lot of disk activity on the drives will often cause the  
>> machine to crash and spontaneously reboot. I checked out which chipset  
>> was on the card with pciconf -lv and I found it was the Sil 3512.  
>> Googling showed me that I'm not the only one with problems using this 
>> card.
> 
> Yes, most of the Silicon Image ICs I've read about have odd driver
> problems or general issues (even under Windows).  The system rebooting
> is an odd one; you sure your PSU can handle two disks?
> 
>> Does anybody have experience with a (preferably not too expensive)  
>> 2-port SATA expansion card which does not have any issues running under  
>> FreeBSD 6.3/7.0?
> 
> Promise makes some consumer-priced cards which work very well under
> FreeBSD (sos@ has full documentation on their cards).
> 
> Their RAID controllers (the consumer-level ones) **do not** require that
> you use RAID; they support JBOD, and the disks will show up under
> FreeBSD as ad(4) devices.  (If you choose to use the RAID, you'll still
> see the ad(4) disks, but you'll also see an ar(4) device too.  This has
> the added advantage of you being able to monitor SMART stats on the
> disks themselves directly, etc...
> 
>> [pciconf -lv output]
>> atapci0@pci0:10:0:      class=0x018000 card=0x35121095 chip=0x35121095  
>> rev=0x01
>> hdr=0x00
>>     vendor     = 'Silicon Image Inc (Was: CMD Technology Inc)'
>>     device     = 'Sil 3512 SATALink/SATARaid Controller'
>>     class      = mass storage
>>
>> [/var/log/messages before the crash]
>> Aug  5 11:16:14 piglet kernel:  
>> g_vfs_done():mirror/gm1s1e[WRITE(offset=111376236544, length=16384)] error = 6
>> Aug  5 11:16:17 piglet last message repeated 9 times
> 
> Are you sure this is being caused by the controller?  Have you checked
> SMART statistics on both disks?  Assuming error == errno, errno 6 is
> "Device not configured".
> 
> There's been recent discussion of such messages being caused by the use
> of gmirror or gjournal, when the mirror/journal is improperly set up.
> (In one users' case, he was receiving similar errors, as well as the
> filesystem failing during fsck.  Turns out he incorrectly configured
> journalling, which nuked the last ~1MB of his UFS filesystem.)
> 
> I'm not saying this is the reason for the messages you see, but it's
> something to keep in mind.
> 

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