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Date:      Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:43:35 -0800
From:      "Wil Hatfield" <freebsd@hyperconx.com>
To:        <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: ATA Drive Issues
Message-ID:  <NGBBKBOMKLFOJCCDHPEOKEPLPNAA.freebsd@hyperconx.com>
In-Reply-To: <200603311834.19476.mistry.7@osu.edu>

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Yah but I didn't see it as being "fixed" in 6.x either. That is why I
mentioned the lack of acknowledgement. If there wasn't a bug acknowledged
and tracked how can it be fixed?  Perhaps none of the Write_DMA problemed
folks have gone to 6.x and when they finally do the problem with show up
again. Who knows.  I guess maybe I am supposed to be that person.

Ok I am just nervous about going to 6.x and putting these customers through
this not once more, but twice when I have to go back to 4.x.

So far I have the Write_DMA problems and Fatal Traps that claim /dev/ad0 to
be the problem. Three outages today. Maybe it is time to look into the
penguin.

--
Wil Hatfield


-----Original Message-----
From: Anish Mistry [mailto:mistry.7@osu.edu]
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 3:34 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: Wil Hatfield
Subject: Re: ATA Drive Issues


On Friday 31 March 2006 17:45, Wil Hatfield wrote:
> I was afraid Soren was going to be mentioned. Well shouldn't the
> FreeBSD 5.4 release information state that it isn't recommended for
> machines with ATA drives?  I really have no way of downgrading to
> 5.3 without losing a couple hundred customers over it.  But with
> all these filesystem freezes I guess I will eventually lose them
> anyways.
>
> Without the acknowledgement of the bugs and proper bug tracking I
> doubt that these issues are going to get fixed in 5.5 or 6.1
> either. It seems the ATA issues are being ignored. How can a
> release make it this far down the branch without fixing the good
> old ATA drive issues first?
ATA on 6.x and CURRENT are being maintained by Soren, just not 5.x.
Moving to 6.x should fix the problem.  Checking gnats only shows
outstanding WRITE_DMA issues for 5.x.

>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Wil Hatfield
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Anish
> Mistry Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 2:29 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Cc: Wil Hatfield - HyperConX
> Subject: Re: ATA Drive Issues
>
> On Friday 31 March 2006 17:08, Wil Hatfield - HyperConX wrote:
> > What is the problem with 5.4 and ATA drives? I am running the
> > latest release of FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p11.  I have two basic ATA
> > drives, no raids and no scsi anything. Every now and then under a
> > bit of load the harddrive freezes with either a kernel panic or a
> > Write_DMA error. I have to reboot the machine and run fsck -y to
> > recover. Sometimes I have to run it twice.
> >From my understanding ATA in 5.4 is slightly broken since Soren
> > hasn't
>
> actually touched that code.  The last time he touched the 5.x
> branch was for 5.3.  I had a weird issue with a 5.3->5.4 upgrade a
> while back.  My tape drive disappeared :(.  I didn't have time to
> investigate, so I just backed down to 5.3, which works fine while I
> work up a schedule to migrate to 6.X.
>
> --
> Anish Mistry
>
>
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Anish Mistry





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