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Date:      Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:19:06 -0800
From:      Kent Stewart <kstewart@urx.com>
To:        so@server.i-clue.de
Cc:        SF <lists@stevenfettig.com>, Freebsd-Questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Hot swap mount compatible with FreeBSD?
Message-ID:  <3AB29F6A.C2F4AFD4@urx.com>
References:  <LOBBKFILCMGGNDCBBCELEEIJDOAA.lists@stevenfettig.com> <3AB2497C.C8B33D32@i-clue.de>

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It is coming. I have been following a new module called atacontrol on
-hackers. It is just being developed by SOS on -current. Requirements
to use it may fall into pcmcia ide devices but I found it very
interesting.

Kent

Christoph Sold wrote:
> 
> SF schrieb:
> >
> > <snip>
> > > I don't understand the question. About every swap solution will work for
> > > you. It's up to you to make sure the drive is not mounted the moment you
> > > swap drives.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > > -Christoph Sold
> >
> > Well, I found an answer - I think - to my own question after more digging
> > (sorry I didn't see this before).  FreeBSD doesn't seem to support
> > hot-swapping per se.  But, the suggestion you gave of making sure the drive
> > was unmounted the moment it is swapped seems to indicate that I am really in
> > need of a hardware setup that will allow drives to be swapped in and out of
> > the chassis (and as long as it is not mounted at that time, this should
> > cause no problems with the OS) - like the way a CD-Rom disc is inserted and
> > removed.  That leads me, however, back to an original question - is there
> > any specific hardware that supports hot swapping (i.e. controller, rails,
> > etc. from someone like Adaptec, etc) that has been used in a FreeBSD box
> > successfully - I have found solutions that should work with MS machines, but
> > I don't know about FreeBSD/*nix functionality?
> 
> Well, thats a different questions altogether. Yes, there is some
> specification about hot-swappability -- you just cannot disconnect an
> IDE bus without disturbing ongoing transfers. Thus, IDE drives a not
> hot-swappable. This leaves SCSI, and the fact you have to be able to
> power down the drive separately _before_ pulling it out of the bay.
> 
> Some solutions exist, but they are very hard to find. I've ordered some
> parts made by Lindy in Germany about three months ago. They're not yet
> here -- and I live in Germany. Seems those boxes are built on large
> orders only.
> 
> For hot swapability, I'd go the IDE to SCSI Raid alley. Just one
> external box allows you to plug cheap IDE drives into, and attaches via
> fast SCSI to you BSD box.
> 
> HTH
> -Christoph Sold
> 
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Kent Stewart
Richland, WA

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