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Date:      Tue, 20 Dec 2011 17:37:29 -0800
From:      <matthew@phoronix.com>
To:        "Adrian Chadd" <adrian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Stable Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Current FreeBSD <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Igor Mozolevsky <igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk>, freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>
Subject:   Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server
Message-ID:  <20111221013733.BDE8E106566B@hub.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-Vmo=sJGoCnuZr40ZVHccBbhovvq=Nwzm4Z37kSd%2BjWuMNqg@mail.gmail.com>

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   The benchmarks themselves are versioned.  So in general most of the
   av= ailable versions of PTS itself should be fine.  PTS can be
   considered = an execution shell that doesn't affect the benchmark
   itself.
   Note th= at you'll download a pile of the benchmarks, build and
   install them.  = Then you run about 49 individual steps.
   Matthew

   -- Sent from my HP Pre3
     _________________________________________________________________

   On Dec 20, 2011 5:30 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>= ; wrote:
   Is there a specific version of the test suite that = should be used,
   to=0D
   compare against the published results?=0D
   =0D=0D
   Adrian=0D
   =0D
   On 20 December 2011 17:18, Matthew Tippett <= ;matthew@phoronix.com>
   wrote:=0D
   > For such a system, the greatest= immediate value would be to attempt
   to=0D
   > reproduce the benchmarks= in question.=0D
   >=0D
   > Install PTS from www.phoronix-test-suit= e.com or freshports.org.=0D
   >=0D
   > Run the benchmark against th= ose used in the article=0D
   >=0D
   > =C2=A0 =C2=A0phoronix-test-su= ite benchmark
   1112113-AR-ORACLELIN37=0D
   >=0D
   > You will be aske= d to push the comparison up to openbenchmarking at
   the end.=0D
   >=0D> Matthew=0D
   >=0D
   >=0D
   > On 12/20/2011 01:39 PM, O. = Hartmann wrote:=0D
   >>=0D
   >> On 12/20/11 21:20, Igor Mozol= evsky wrote:=0D
   >>>=0D
   >>> Interestingly, while peo= ple seem to be (arguably rightly)
   focused on=0D
   >>> criticising= Phoronix's benchmarking, nobody has offered an
   alternative=0D
   >>&= gt; benchmark; and while (again, arguably rightly) it is
   important to=0D
   >>> benchmark real world performance, equally, nobody has offered=
   any=0D
   >>> numbers in relation to, for example, HTTP or SMTP, = or any other
   "real=0D
   >>> world"-application torture tests done= on the aforementioned
   two=0D
   >>> platforms... IMO, this just g= oes to show that "doing is hard"
   and=0D
   >>> "criticising is muc= h easier" (yes, I am aware of the irony
   involved in=0D
   >>> maki= ng this statement, but someone has to!)=0D
   >>>=0D
   >>&g= t;=0D
   >>> Cheers,=0D
   >>> Igor M :-)=0D
   >>= =0D
   >> Unfortunately, M. Larabel is the only one who's performing =
   benchmarks on=0D
   >> FreeBSD, comparing its performance to the Linu= x-opponents. Adn
   indeed,=0D
   >> there is a lot of criticism, but no= alternative.=0D
   >> I said unfortunately - not offensive - since L= arabel and Phoronix
   are=0D
   >> sadly the only ones who do actually = such bechmarking.=0D
   >>=0D
   >> It would be much more nicer= and kind to support those people.=0D
   >>=0D
   >> Well, in J= anuary/February we get new hardware. One box is
   supposed to do=0D
   >&g= t; number crunching via 12 cores and a TESLA GPU. My colleague
   is=0D
   >= ;> developing a high parallelized peice of software for satellite
   data= =0D
   >> transformation. The software package is CPU bound, partiall= y GPU,
   but=0D
   >> massively memory hungry (96 to 128 GB RAM is need= ed).=0D
   >> What I can offer is, since I will also work on that mac= hine and
   I've=0D
   >> free hand to administer, in the spare time of = doing my PhD,
   installing=0D
   >> FreeBSD 9.0/10.0 besides SuSe Linux= and looking forward having one
   ZFS=0D
   >> data storage drive for h= omes, so both systems can perform on a
   most=0D
   >> recent ZFS. I'm = new to Linux, not a BSD guru, nor I'm a
   professional=0D
   >> program= mer/developer. My skills are sufficient for the daily
   scientific=0D
   >= > work. So, without pressure, I'm willing to perform some HPC
   benchmarks= =0D
   >> under advice if the day comes and those interested in bare =
   numbers of=0D
   >> FreeBSD vs. Linux performance with a real-world-s= cientific
   application.=0D
   >>=0D
   >> I would appreciate to = see some of the developers and/or FreeBSD
   hackers=0D
   >> to help Ph= oronix setting up a proper testenvironment instead of
   bashing=0D
   >>= ; M. Larabel and his fellows.=0D
   >>=0D
   >> Regards,=0D
   = >> Oliver=0D
   >>=0D
   >=0D
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