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Date:      Wed, 2 Aug 2017 13:02:36 -0400
From:      "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@tysdomain.com>
To:        markham breitbach <markham@ssimicro.com>, FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Ban on spam-sender domains from posting to freebsd-questions
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On 8/2/2017 12:32 PM, markham breitbach wrote:
> I have been a user of FreeBSD since around 2.1 and in all that time I
> have been a subscriber to this list intermittently.  This discussion
> happens about once a year, and usually generates more traffic than any
> of the actual spam.
>
> That being said...
>
> 1.  Yes, there is spam.  It tends to come in bursts, but really isn't
> that much.

People always seem to downplay this for some reason. I get "get your
freebsd site on the front page of google, increase your SEO, we have
parts to sell you" messages all the time. We just got two today. I
usually see a few a week. Compared to the actual traffic it's relatively
low, but disregarding it entirely and saying that it's negligible is
somewhat like saying that it's rare that people break into your house so
why bother locking it. The solution is simple: lock the door. In the
case of FreeBSD lists, you just prevent people from posting who aren't
subscribed.

> 2.  Having a subscriber only policy doesn't necessarily prevent spam.
>
> 3.  I really don't see why the list can't have a subscribe-only policy. 
> It could even respond with subscription instructions for non-subs.  In
> all my years of watching this list, I can probably count the number of
> instances that someone has asked for responses off-list-only.
>
>
>
> $.02
> -M
>
> On 2017-08-02 9:13 AM, Carmel NY wrote:
>> On 2 Aug 2017 14:49:11 -0000, John Levine stated:
>>
>>> If fbsd would configure its lists to accept mail only from
>>> subscribers, most of the spam would go away.
>>>
>>> Approximately every other list in the world does that.  I cannot begin
>>> to guess why they imagine that isn't effective.
>> You are wasting your breath, or maybe it is electrons or bandwidth or
>> whatever. This exact problem has been discussed ad infinitum on this
>> list. The consensus is that users of this list are either too lazy or
>> stupid to subscribe to the list. I showed that I could subscribe
>> (requires email verification) and unsubscribe in less than three
>> minutes total time. I seriously doubt that anyone would choose to do
>> that though. Apparently, it is the commonly held belief that somebody,
>> somehow, somewhere, might want to ask a random question on this list
>> and we would be infringing on his right to do so by asking him/her to
>> first register.
>>
>> Strange how it works so well on other forums though. The FreeBSD motto
>> apparently is, "Tis better to screw over the hundreds than
>> inconvenience the one."
>>
>
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