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Date:      Sat, 02 Dec 2000 12:45:08 -0800
From:      Tim Uckun <tim@diligence.com>
To:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: installing freebsd from windows nt without using boot disks
Message-ID:  <4.2.0.58.20001202122721.00a72bf0@mail.diligence.com>
In-Reply-To: <003501c05c94$247dbff0$40461418@salem1.or.home.com>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0012010643530.38897-100000@MyFreeBSD.ispchannel.com> <001401c05bc8$0c20d900$40461418@salem1.or.home.com> <3A280418.6E3AB212@twopoint.com>

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>still call me young siblings and give them hell.  laughing all the while.
>and i don't mind it too much when people (my friends in particular) laugh at
>me.  so if anything, i hope that you were laughing when you read my previous
>emails, or are at least doing so by now.  take care, all!


OK I am an absolute freebsd pre-newbie (I haven't even installed it yet) 
and I just subscribed to some listserves as a preliminary preparation and I 
came in the middle of this conversation but here goes anyway.

This whole attitude of "I was just kidding and laughing when I said your 
baby was ugly" business is crap. It's not right to come to a freebsd board 
(questions no less) and go on some tirade about how much freebsd sucks or 
NT rulez. If that's your opinion then great! go use NT and leave, nobody is 
forcing you to do anything. It's not your place to come here tell everybody 
how much their choice of operating system sucks.
I don't believe you when you say you were laughing and kidding I think you 
are a troll and a nasty person who wants to argue just to argue and who 
likes to hear himself speak (figuratively of course). It's obvious you 
enjoy insulting people and aggravating them rather then trying to help 
somebody. As far as I know (not much) this forum is for asking and 
answering question. Either ask your question, take the time out to help 
somebody or shut up.

As for your main point. I know that there are a lot of stupid and foolish 
people in the world, and god knows I have run into plenty of stupid and 
foolish business people. But any person who goes shopping for a unix 
solution from Microsoft has got to be the stupidest of the stupid. When 
Sun, HP, IBM, Compaq/digital, SGI etc have decades of Unix experience and 
have the state of the art unix hardware and software. Going to  MS and 
having to rely on some halfway solution would be enough to trigger a herd 
of shareholder lawsuits. Besides it would be a supreme embarassment to 
microsoft to admit that NT does not cut it. MS has been saying (lying 
actually but for MS there is no difference between lying and speaking) for 
years that NT was a better unix then unix and now to backtrack from that 
180 degrees and admit that NT can not solve all of your server problems 
would be a shameful act. The whole interix deal was not have a MS port of 
Unix it was to allow people to port their unix apps to NT and maybe in the 
interim run it on NT during the transition. Anybody who thinks they can run 
an enterprise app under unix emulation in NT needs to immediately canned by 
their shareholders (along with all those CEOS who think they can sue MS if 
something goes wrong).

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              Tim Uckun
       Mobile Intelligence Unit.
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    "There are some who call me TIM?"
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