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Date:      Mon, 20 May 2002 12:45:07 +0200
From:      Steve Mazerski <smazerski@yahoo.co.jp>
To:        Jan Grant <Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk>
Cc:        Dan Nelson <dnelson@allantgroup.com>, freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: "Base system" applications, files (newby-ish questions)
Message-ID:  <200205201245.07349.smazerski@yahoo.co.jp>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0205201117210.13877-100000@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk>
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.44.0205201117210.13877-100000@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk>

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On Monday 20 May 2002 12:21, Jan Grant wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2002, Steve Mazerski wrote:
> > On Sunday 19 May 2002 22:23, Dan Nelson wrote:
> > > In the last episode (May 19), Steve Mazerski said:
> > > > (...)
> > > > 1. "Base system" applications
> > > >
> > > > not quite sure what the technical term is, but FreeBSD installs a
> > > > certain number of applications as part of the basic installation.=
 Is
> > > > there any way of generating an overview (a la pkg_info) of which
> > > > applications / versions thereof are installed?
> > >
> > > For the most part, you can assume the version of all the binaries i=
s
> > > "4.5", or whatever version of BSD you just installed.
> >
> > Sorry, forgot to mention. I installed 4.5-RELEASE.
> >
> > >  The base
> > > system is pretty much treated as a single unit.  Exceptions are
> > > programs that are actively maintained outside of FreeBSD: gcc, ntpd=
,
> > > ssh, etc.  The release engineers try not to upgrade these, preferri=
ng
> > > to merge in only security fixes.  Makes it easier to people to upgr=
ade
> > > without having to redo all their config files.
> >
> > Does that mean updates to these are made available between
> > FreeBSD releases, or only with each successive release?
>
> Updates are made available continuously. What you're looking for is
> described as "tracking -stable" (or possibly, just tracking security
> fixes to the release) and is described in the handbook: generally, this
> is done by keeping the source to the base system up-to-date with a tool
> such as cvsup and rebuildint the world. This is a simple task these
> days.

Aha. Am beginning to find my way around now.  Just found where the
security advisories hang out and see they include patch instructions.

> There _is_ an effort to packageise the whole of the base system; in
> which case, binary upgrades should become simpler. But this is still
> something that's slated for the future.

I see, now I understand what's what.

Many thanks


Steve Mazerski


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