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Date:      Sun, 11 Dec 2011 09:59:58 +0000
From:      Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: again, ports that stop daemons
Message-ID:  <4EE47F1E.9020104@infracaninophile.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <20111211071947.GA57995@DataIX.net>
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On 11/12/2011 07:19, Jason Hellenthal wrote:
> If end-user is upgrading a package they should be prepared to take
> any neccesary action to start the services again after final actions
> are complete. Desperate services could have a periodic script that
> could handle the checks for these services and I strongly advise
> against taking any action whatsoever on starting or restarting or
> reloading.

Like this?

http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/articles/hotchpotch.html#status-rc

Not that I entirely disagree with having a mechanism available to
restart daemons on update, but yes, it should definitely be optional and
configurable and the docco should explain very clearly that *it will not
work properly in all cases*.

There are too many corner cases where you've got to worry about the
order in which services are restarted, plus things like needing to
restart a completely different service when certain ports get upgraded.
 Consider what needs to happen if you update a commonly used shlib to
fix an important problem but without there being an ABI bump...

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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