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Date:      Sat, 1 Nov 1997 17:53:16 -0500 (EST)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu>
To:        mika ruohotie <bsdchat@shadows.aeon.net>
Cc:        Stephane Raimbault <stephane@cybersurf.net>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Prefered X Window Manager?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.971101174648.11985T-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <199711012222.AAA05293@shadows.aeon.net>

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On Sun, 2 Nov 1997, mika ruohotie wrote:

> > So, I'm just wondering what Window Manager some of you use.  I am currently
> > using twm which comes with XFree86.
> 
> uh, you might wish to check out afterstep. some people prefer
> also enlightment, but i find it _very_ hard to believe.
> 
> afterstep is all you want, really.

I think we have to explain ourselves.  Afterstep is patterned on fvwm2
(they took fvwm2 as a code base and tried to intelligently use some stuff
from the Next machines).  Has most of the good ideas of fvwm2, and some of
the best of the Next also.  I think this rates as a great concept, done
pretty well, I give it a B+.  Definitely _looks_ better than fvwm2,
aguable about if it works better.

enlightenment seems to have been done by someone in love with rococo art.
Incredible use of purely beautiful graphics.  How to do various things
just isn't obvious, but you're so dazzled by the imagery, who cares?
I looked at it, was impressed (very) by the art, but couldn't figure out
how to get work done.  If you have the time and disk space, you want to
look at it.  If you're limited in either, it's not an incredibly good bet.
Also supposed to be buggy.  A+ for art, C for implementation, D- for
useability/documentation.

> 
> (yes, yes, this issue is in category "holy wars")
> 
> 
> mickey
> 
> ps. emacs. emacs. emacs. zsh. zsh. zsh. elm. elm. elm. trn. trn. trn.
> 
> 

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