Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:28:54 -0800 (PST) From: Kip Macy <kip@lyris.com> To: Vivek Khera <khera@kciLink.com> Cc: Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.05.9912281425060.3860-100000@luna.lyris.com> In-Reply-To: <14440.52608.752256.799982@onceler.kcilink.com>
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On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "MS" == Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org> writes: > > >> FreeBSD has a tendency to panic in out of mbuf situations. That > >> shouldn't happen. > > MS> The semantics of "should" and "shouldn't" are debatable. In this case, > MS> the panic is a simple indicator that the administrator hasn't correctly > MS> tuned the system. Many would argue that this is a much better outcome > MS> than a system that performs poorly for no immediately perceptible reason, > MS> and it certainly encourages the prompt application of a correct > MS> adjustment. > > I come from the school of thought that nothing should make the system > crash. It should try its hardest to handle the workload thrown at it. > Under no circumstances is a panic acceptable. The system should at > worst drop some connections and issue a warning, or plod through and > issue a warning. Kernel panic is *never* the right thing to do, and > should be considered an error in the kernel. > > It is this kind of cavalier attitude towards system problems that > makes people scared of using open source systems. > I think it is ultimately a religious issue and not a customer issue which is why FreeBSD has the strengths that it does and the weaknesses that it does. David Greenman backed me up when I said the same thing. However, there are numerous others in the FreeBSD group who believe that it is the users' responsibility. -Kip To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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