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Date:      Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:36:52 -0400
From:      Tim Hawes <thawes@althusius.net>
To:        freebsd-config@freebsd.org
Subject:   Install Trouble
Message-ID:  <3F7424D4.1080703@althusius.net>
In-Reply-To: <200309240845.42257.thawes@althusius.net>
References:  <AMEMKJNMFLJCJDLFIEDBCEPCEGAA.aburke@nullplusone.com> <200309240845.42257.thawes@althusius.net>

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Is there some other forum I should try for this problem? It seems 
awfully quiet here.

Tim Hawes wrote:

>Some new information, I did not make clear last time. FreeBSD 4.8 does lock up 
>(or no vt is available) during the hardware probe, while 5.1 lets me switch 
>between vt's.
>
>Nothing changed after removing unneeded drivers, (including only the ones you 
>suggested). It did not change anything. I was not able to try the same thing 
>with FreeBSD 5.1, because it still goes into hardware probe before I get a 
>chance to specify what drivers to load.
>
>
>
>On Wednesday 24 September 2003 5:26 am, Aaron Burke wrote:
>  
>
>>>Subject: Install Trouble
>>>
>>>
>>>I am a newbie in the FreeBSD world, but an old hat for Solaris and
>>>Linux. I have an Intel box with Windows 2000 and Linux already on it. I
>>>shrunk my Windows partition to allocate about 16 GB for a new FreeBSD
>>>install. I have installed FreeBSD on VMware several times in the past,
>>>so this is my first non-virtual install.
>>>
>>>The install completely halts shortly after it shows the "Probing
>>>hardware (this may take a while...)" message. I look at vt1 to see what
>>>debugging messages are there. I notice that it stops right after finding
>>>the /dev/cua devices (serial devices???).
>>>      
>>>
>>Yes, cuaa0 is linked to the serial port code.
>>
>>Allthough I am not 100% sure about this, FreeBSD detects the device, then
>>tells you about it. So that was probably telling you that the last
>>device that it properly loaded was the serial ports.
>>
>>Have you booted with "boot -c -v", then typed visual? You should see a
>>message that says "Hit [Enter] to boot immediatly, or any other key for
>>a command prompt.". Then type "boot -c -v" (config, and verbose). Then
>>a prompt labeled "config> " will appear. Type visual and try disabling
>>any hardware that you dont have. Allthough the GENERIC kernel will usually
>>fail to detect these devices (because they dont exist), its still worth
>>disabling them.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>The console is not locked, I can switch back and forth from vt0 and vt1
>>>without trouble. It is just stopped.
>>>      
>>>
>>Thats actually a good thing. Its kind of nice when a the system is still
>>at least partially running!
>>
>>    
>>
>>>It did this to me with both FreeBSD versions 4.8 and 5.1
>>>      
>>>
>>That helps rule out some of the big differences between the two different
>>branches of the FreeBSD source.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>This is a Walmart Os-less PC I bought just over a year ago. I am no
>>>hardware guru, and I am not sure what info is pertinent, so tell me what
>>>I need to tell you to help me.
>>>      
>>>
>>Well, that pretty much rules out SCSI, you may try disabling the scsi
>>devices. The only things that you should need are as follows:
>>Storage :
>>	ATA/ATAPI compatable disk controller		ata0  14 0x1f0
>>	ATA/ATAPI compatable disk controller		ata0  15 0x170
>>Network :
>>	Only enable your network card.
>>Communications :
>>	You are likely to have at least one serial port, but disable it
>>	for now. You can enable it later if you need it. The same goes
>>	for your parallel port.
>>Input :
>>	Keyboard							atkbd0  1
>>	Syscons console driver					sc0
>>Miscellaneous :
>>	Math coprocessor						npx0
>>
>>Most people recompile the kernel when they have the box up and running.
>>Feel free to talk to freebsd-questions about this topic. We will be happy
>>to forward you some links to some sites that give an overview of the
>>process.
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>
>>>Tim Hawes
>>>      
>>>
>>Be sure to let us know if you have any luck. There are several people
>>on this list that will have more advice to offer. But I would start
>>by making sure your not going to attempt to load drivers for hardware
>>that you dont have.
>>
>>Aaron Burke
>>aburke@nullplusone.com
>>    
>>
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