Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 16:49:03 -0700 From: Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG, Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>, "M. Warner Losh" <imp@village.org>, naddy@mips.inka.de, Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org> Subject: Re: Package system flaws? Message-ID: <20020709234903.GA2020@gnuppy.monkey.org> In-Reply-To: <3D2B7434.366B9679@mindspring.com> References: <20020706220511.GA88651@scoobysnax.jaded.net> <agacqn$1tv4$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <20020708.094652.21114246.imp@village.org> <20020709073309.GB96335@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020709082753.GA60250@mithrandr.moria.org> <20020709185010.GA26983@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020709233111.GA1651@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20020709233604.GB1651@gnuppy.monkey.org> <3D2B7434.366B9679@mindspring.com>
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On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 04:39:32PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > RPM can do this too. > > The permutations of what you should be able to do, and what having > that ability lets you build on top of it, are ...interesting. I > like the idea of an "unrootkit". > > -- Terry dpkg does that and is much more sophisticated about package management in general. I can't really explain it in a manner that justifies its positive attributes, but I can definitely say that after using both RPM and dpkg based system that dpkg is vastly superior to it mainly because of dependency resolution. A sophisticated binary packaging system becomes important as dependencies get more complicated and since packages get out of sync. A solid system disiplines that problem into something much more automatic. I've done something close to your unroot kit pretty easily with dpkg on a damage machine without too much creative effort. This assumes that I understand you correctly. It's definitely worth check out if you haven't seen it before and makes most packaging systems (and definitely pkg_*) seem like they're in the dark ages. bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message
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