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Date:      Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:57:03 -0800 (PST)
From:      Riccardo veraldi <riccardo@calweb.com>
To:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   window manager olvwm
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.961210005634.21067A-100000@web1.calweb.com>

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Hi,
I have quite a curious thing to bring to your attention people.
Well first of all thanks for your help, this is not the first time I mail here 
:)
Well I have quite a strange behaviour of my olvwm window manager.
Is this a bug I guess ????
Well if I run olvwm as window manager and then I switch to text mode
on virtual console with CONTROL+ALT+F1 or CONTROL+ALT+F2 then I come
back to the X Window with CONTROL+ALT+F4...well if now I log out
from the X server IT happens that when I am back to text mode no
characters are displayed anymore on the console on the terminal if I type
something on my keyboard, 
and also they not only are not displayed, but commands are not executed, seems
like the keyboard is cutted off, but I Still can reboot with CONTROL+ALT+CANC.
Well the thing is that this happens only if I use the olvwm and if I use the 
fvwm this does not happen...better saying this happen after exiting from X 
windows using the olvwm and first before exiting it switching to text mode.
IF I do not switch with CONTROL+ALT+F1 etc, and I use X windows normally 
without switching to text, everything is ok when I exit the X server.
I have a normal PC 486Dx33 Intel CPU, ISA Bus, 2 IDE disks, ET4000 video card,
I mean normal hardware, but only 8 Mb RAM.
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then here is some help I ask you :)
I have installed the Open Look Window Manager olvwm as I told before.
The thing is that I am unable to do things like 
PROPERTIES and SAVE_WORKSPACE 'cos the system tells me that
I don't have the programs  props and owplaces,
where I can find these programs for FreeBSD?
I have installed the XFree86 taking the binaries from
ftp.fi.FreeBSD.org/pub/OS/4.3bsd/FreeBSD/XFree86
and uncompressing it and making everything like linking to X the SVGA
server etc., I did the same way the documentation told me to extract and 
install the binaries, I mean I followed all the instructions I found on the
documentation file.
Then after installing the X server I installed the olvwm window manager 
getting it from packages distribution (ftp.fi.freebsd.org/pub/OS/4.3bsd/FreeBSD/
2.1.6-RELEASE/packages) and I used the
menue program /stand/sysinstall/ , and the installation has gone fine.
OF course I installed all the xview libraries and clients, the packages
xview-clients-3.2.1.tgz 
xview-config-3.2.1.tgz
xview-lib-3.2.1.tgz
THe only thing is that I can't configure to save the workspace or 
look at the properties 'cos seems like that in the binary distribution
there aren't these 2 programs  props and owplaces, so
what I have to do? where I can find them?
I would like to make the 2 things (props, owplaces) work on my olvwm.
In the man pages I found out also informations about the script 
openwin, but I have not find it after installation so I did it myself
as well as I didn't find iconedit even if there is a reference to it
in the xview man page.
Seems like the binary distribution is incomplete.

now an other question.
OFTEN when I run a X client I have this message:

ld.so: warning: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.0: minor version 0 older than 
expected 1, using it anyway.

how come this happens??
I have the new release binaries 1.2.6-RELEASE and libs too I found
in the same distribution, so why I have this warning message?
well there is a thing to say. The XFree86 binaries I found were
common to 2.1.* distributions and not specific for 2.1.6 release,
might this one to be the reason of the warning message ??
Anyway I think FreeBsd to be better than Linux, I like more FreeBSD.
A last question...
I have applications such as xsysinfo xsysstats , but if I run the
xman I can't find them there also with search option, while they are
in normal man pages from vt100 terminal, how come?
How come I Can't find the manual pages with the xman program?


I hope you can help me.
thanks a lot!!

Riccardo from Italy.






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