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Date:      Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:07:00 -0600
From:      Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net>
To:        Andrew J Caines <A.J.Caines@halplant.com>
Cc:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: INDEX-5 is deleted then reconstructed by "make index"
Message-ID:  <oprxtglyjt8ckrg5@smtp.central.cox.net>
In-Reply-To: <20031029155727.GD15764@hal9000.halplant.com>
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:57:27 -0500, Andrew J Caines 
<A.J.Caines@halplant.com> wrote:

> Jeremy,
>
>> I don't think so, because you still have to wait for the databases to be
>> rebuilt, before you can use portversion.
>
> But since you will typically be cvsup'ing, building, updating dbs and 
> such
> during `off hours', ie. not sitting in front of the terminal waiting for
> it to finish, the db rebuilds don't take any important time.

The CVSup'ing doesn't take hours, only two minutes or less for me. So I do 
finish everything at once, I only walk off when the portupgrade are 
building the stuff.

> I do it like this[1]
>
> I was surprised by your timing results:

Why surpised? The portversion is a winner, but my point was total of time 
in the steps. Without rebuild databases, the pkg_version still will work 
and quickly rather than wait for a long time to get the database to be 
rebuilt.

>> # time portversion -l "<"
>> 3.127u 0.653s 0:08.02 47.0%	22+9776k 1003+0io 0pf+0w
>> # time pkg_version -l \<
>> 29.930u 11.442s 0:49.49 83.5%	327+540k 1093+0io 63pf+0w
>
> On my two FreeBSD boxes with up-to-date ports and built indices (portsdb
> -Uu; pkgdb -u), I get quite the opposite results:
>
> PII-266, 384MB, ports on old 4.5GB UW SCSI disk, 4.9-RC[2]:
>
> # time portversion -l "<"
> real 0m15.162s, user 0m6.556s, sys 0m1.407s
> # ttime pkg_version -l \<
> real 2m24.996s, user 1m45.382s, sys 0m28.736s
>
> P4-1700, 384MB, ports on newish 20GB ATA-5 disk, 5.1p10[3]:
>
> # time portversion -l "<"
> real 0m5.528s, user 0m1.027s, sys 0m0.407s
> # time pkg_version -l \<
> real 0m23.175s, user 0m10.967s, sys 0m7.034s
>
>> Result: The 'my' way is a winner, easier and quick. :-)
>
> So what is the major difference between your setup and mine?

Explained above, my point is total of time and how waste the time it was. 
However, I will beat you in no time to finish the total of time to do the 
CVSup, pkg_version -l \<, pkgdb -F and portupgrade -ra. When, you do the 
CVSup, make index, portsdb -u, portversion -l "<" and finally do the 
portupgrade -ra.

The time does matter.

Cheers,
Mezz

>> But, I don't know  how it will make the difference if I have the 9,000
>> packages installed.
>
> 231 installed on the PII, 188 on the P4, all built from ports.
>
>
> [1] http://halplant.com:88/software/FreeBSD/scripts/update_fbsd
> [2] http://halplant.com:88/systems.html
> [3] Find disk specs for the Optiplex GX400 on Dell's web site and win
>     a prize for persistence in the face of crappy design and slow 
> delivery.
>
>
> -Andrew-



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