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Date:      Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:47:08 -0800
From:      Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>
To:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 3Com driver problems 
Message-ID:  <20011214234708.E9FB33808@overcee.netplex.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <176.cf4901.294bd7bc@aol.com> 

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FYI, this is another dennis@etinc.com clone.

HP889@aol.com wrote:
> >>  with 3Com905B devices.
> >>  And a quick search did not reveal any major problems with the 3com cards.
> > 
> > A "quick search" of what?  Get some perspective. The "hackers" are only 
> > interested in cards that they use, and they all use intel for high end 
> stuff.
> > Bill paul is too busy writing drivers for some new gigabit card to worry 
> > about old stuff. (note that most of his drivers are optimised for the Alpha
     
> > and not i386...like what pct of people are using Alpha?) And there is 
> > apparantly no interest in fixing anything or finding out whats wrong 
> because 
> > some guy at freebsd with a 2 inch weener keeps knocking me off the 
> > list...they dont like criticism. I've already fixed it, so all im trying to
     
> > do is save you a lot of time doing work thats already been done.
> 
> >Actually, the cards are very much optimized for the i386.  See the lack of
> >using bus_dma for example, which is required for these cards to work on 
> things
> >ike sparc64.  Grow up and realize that not all the world is an i386.  Ports
> >like sparc64, powerpc, ia64, and x86-64 are being added and they are not
> >exactly like the i386.  I've used 3com cards (xl(4)) without any problems.
> 
> >They are rather nice cards and Bill Paul prefers those to Intel cards since
> >Intel is so nazi with its docco. :)
> 
> >To Guret:
> 
> >Please don't listen to Dennis.  He is feeding you lies so that you will go 
> buy?
> >his "better" ethernet drivers.  He is very obnoxious and thus has been banne
    d
> >from the lists several times.  This is just another one of his silly aliases
    .
> 
> We dont sell ethernet drivers, and Im not trying to "hide". Why does linux 
> have specific code to disable the stats under load if Im making this up? Why 
> can you lock up a FreeBSD 4.4 system with a 3com card at 20Kpps due to 
> counter overflow interrupts in about 3 seconds?
> 
> Its too bad that pointing out bugs is deemed as being obnoxious. Maybe its 
> why they were complaining that linux outperforms Freebsd last week?
> 
> Guret, I apologize for trying to help. Im sure these fellows at freebsd.org 
> will work painstakingly to help you find your problem. But since they are in 
> denial about there being anything wrong with it, you most likely are sunk.
> 
> Try to front end your machine with a switch...the 5 cards is most likely your
     
> problem. With each device you increase your bus contention (ie worsen the 
> worst case bus master scenario)...either that or get a 4 port card that is 
> more efficient than 5 individual cards.
> 
> DB
> 
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Cheers,
-Peter
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