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Date:      Wed, 9 Feb 2005 10:51:36 -0500
From:      Brian Fundakowski Feldman <green@freebsd.org>
To:        Dmitry Agaphonov <rzhe@agava.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: kqueue & pthread
Message-ID:  <20050209155136.GC65523@green.homeunix.org>
In-Reply-To: <20050209183952.30f4c5b6.rzhe@agava.com>
References:  <20050209173625.29d50ffd.rzhe@agava.com> <20050209144924.GB65523@green.homeunix.org> <20050209183952.30f4c5b6.rzhe@agava.com>

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On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 06:39:52PM +0300, Dmitry Agaphonov wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 09:49:24 -0500
>         Brian Fundakowski Feldman <green@freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
> BFF> Since you're using user threads, not kernel threads, the kernel can only
> BFF> have one "object" (poll or select list, or kqueue file descriptor) to wait
> BFF> upon at any given time.  Since kqueues are pollable, what happens is
> BFF> that the kqueue along with every other fd being polled/selected are all
> BFF> polled by a single poll(2) system call.  Yes, your kqueue is being used,
> BFF> but it has an indirection of another poll(2) system call determining
> BFF> when your kevent(2) thread should be woken up.
> 
> Brian, thank a lot for your explanation!
> 
> So, pthreads since they are user threads do not provide concurrency on
> multiprocessor systems?

Right, the libc_r implementation specifically.

> And by the way, are there another ways to have kernel threads in FreeBSD 4.x
> applications, rather than use LinuxThreads port or implement it via rfork'ed
> processes?

The LinuxThreads library seems to be the best-supported way.  I don't think
that there should be legal/licensing issues using it.

-- 
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  <> green@FreeBSD.org                               \  The Power to Serve! \
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