Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:46:31 -0500 (EST) From: Jamie Bowden <jamie@itribe.net> To: "Oben O. Candemir" <dunya@one.net.au> Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD IRC channels and ??quality?? Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.96.990120003101.26730A-100000@animaniacs.itribe.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9901191327040.7090-100000@fireball.2000.com.au>
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On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, Oben O. Candemir wrote: > > > > kinder and gentler in that respect are the purest bovine exhaust as > > I've already illustrated. EFNET in general is a cesspool and probably > > shouldn't be mentioned in the Handbook, in fact, I'll take that > > mention right out. > > > You could have stated that you were a chanop on #freebsd from the start... > > Afterall, you can't tell a parent their child is ugly. > > You ought to move the whole 'cesspool' channel to #pseudoBSD or #losersBSD > and allow someone more able to run #freebsd in a manner that REFLECTS upon > the majority of users. > > Otherwise... may you live long and go on spurting bovine exhaust... and > smelling it. Whichever takes your fancy. Lemme throw something your way. It's called a clue. Jordan doesn't spend a whole lot of time on irc (if you found him there, it was a rare day, or he couldn't sleep). When he does, he's immediately op'd, as most FreeBSD users will recognize him, and being nice to anyone who's on the -core mailing list is usually in your own best interest. Now, I don't hang out in EFNet #FreeBSD much anymore, haven't in several years now. When the channel averaged ~15 people at any given time, it was mostly admins, chatting about freebsd related stuff. Last time I looked, there were over 50 people in #FreeBSD, and most were not the general user type I'd personally hang out with. Call me elitist or tasteful, your choice, but the point is, IRC is not a viable form of tech support in any fashion. Their is too much room for abuse, and no way to do any real regulation If you need help, buy a book, or call someone, but don't bitch about lack of free support on the net. FreeBSD is not Linux. The two projects have different goals and user bases. There is a small IRC network based solely on FreeBSD servers, and is home to a bunch of generally amicable FreeBSD users and admins. Adam Dace and I put the two first servers on line (irc.inna.net., and irc.netural.net., netural is gone now) four years ago. Don't ask questions in #NoHelp (gee, you would think the channel name would make it obvious), and ask all you want in #FreeBSD. You may or may not recieve an answer, but no one is going to pick on you. This has no connection to the FreeBSD project, it's just something a bunch of FreeBSD guys put together in our spare time. It's not something generally advertised, as evenings and weekends tend to be slow (we do have lives outside of work, you see), and finding dead air is the norm. If you want to hang out and answer questions, feel free, but no one is going to pay you for it, and if you get so much as a thanks, it was a good day. Welcome to volunteerism. I suppose I should quit ranting now. Jamie Bowden -- If we've got to fight over grep, sign me up. But boggle can go. -Ted Faber (on Hasbro's request for removal of /usr/games/boggle) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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