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Date:      Mon, 24 May 1999 11:54:02 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Tom <tom@uniserve.com>
To:        Bart van Leeuwen <bart@ixori.demon.nl>
Cc:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@flood.ping.uio.no>, isdn@freebsd.org, blitz@pdq.net, stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ISDN Terminal adapter no work
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.02A.9905241152190.29433-100000@shell.uniserve.ca>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9905241851250.1785-100000@ixori.demon.nl>

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On Mon, 24 May 1999, Bart van Leeuwen wrote:

> On Mon, 24 May 1999, Tom wrote:
> 
> > On 24 May 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> > 
> > > "Craig Harding" <crh@outpost.co.nz> writes:
> > > > Most TA's act just like very fast modems.
> > > 
> > > "very" is perhaps not the right word, since an single ISDN channel is
> > > less than twice as fast as a 33k6 modem.
> > 
> >   Nope.
> > 
> >   First of all, most everyone gets 2B+D ISDN (2 x 64K) anyhow, in fact
> > 1B+D (64k) isn't available in most areas of the world.
> > 
> >   Second, ISDN is sync, but modems are async.  Now some people use various
> > async emulation protocols over ISDN (like V.120), but that is a complete
> > waste, especially if all you are doing is PPP.
> > 
> >   Here is what is looks like:
> > 
> > 64k ISDN channel:  64000 / 8 = 8000 bytes/sec
> > 2 x 33.6 modem:    67200 / 10 = 6720 bytes/sec
> >
> 
> Uusually async modems also support things like mnp4 and 5, v42,
> v42bis etc. one of the results of this is that the actual transport of

  Yes, I didn't include that.  Nor did I not include using STAC
compression on the ISDN line.  STAC provides much better results than any
modem compression protocol.

...
> So... this is only true for a async connection employing 2 plain async
> modems without any error correction and such, which are almost
> extinct nowadays.

  So is a bare ISDN connection.


Tom



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