Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:23:39 +0100 From: Pav Lucistnik <pav@FreeBSD.org> To: Andrew Pantyukhin <infofarmer@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>, Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd ports <freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org>, Rene Ladan <r.c.ladan@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ports management tools in the base (Was: Re: cvs commit: www/en/projects/ideas ideas.xml) Message-ID: <1174472619.32542.14.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> In-Reply-To: <cb5206420703210131j9600668v3750be8780814cf0@mail.gmail.com> References: <200703181638.l2IGcoaj003204@repoman.freebsd.org> <20070319125101.4lb7lljt5w4cwog8@webmail.leidinger.net> <1174308178.15322.13.camel@pav.hide.vol.cz> <45FF29E4.4060305@FreeBSD.org> <46004202.5040603@gmail.com> <20070320214735.0d55a1cb@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <4600647D.2040305@FreeBSD.org> <20070321083401.7x3vh4rb4wgs0wcw@webmail.leidinger.net> <cb5206420703210131j9600668v3750be8780814cf0@mail.gmail.com>
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Andrew Pantyukhin p=ED=B9e v st 21. 03. 2007 v 11:31 +0300:
> On 3/21/07, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net> wrote:
> > When you need a program which needs a newer lib than installed on a
> > production system, but you don't get a maintenance window to update
> > all other programs which use this lib, then not having the old lib
> > will hurt.
> >
> > When the reason for the library version bump also requires to change
> > some parts in the source of the programs which make use of the lib,
> > you have to update all programs at once. If some programs have bugs in
> > more recent versions which you can't accept in production and when you
> > need to install a program which needs the new lib version, you are
> > busted when you don't have the old lib around.
>=20
> But don't you smell an architectural flaw here (of the
> ports system) and don't you feel that working around it
> in a tool in the base system might only mess things up
> even more?..
No I don't see a systematic flaw here. Or you suggest we reset all
shmajors everywhere to zero?
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Pav Lucistnik <pav@oook.cz>
<pav@FreeBSD.org>
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