Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 17:17:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Joseph A. Mallett" <jmallett@xMach.org> To: Fredrik Olausson <fredrik@speechcraft.com> Cc: David Scheidt <dscheidt@tumbolia.com>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>, <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: The desktop apathy Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.33.0105261715390.28152-100000@Aphex.NewGold.NET> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105262306060.319-100000@molly.telia.com>
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I'm top posting... no cookie for me. Apple couldn't have done Aqua as a plain old X window manager. Well, they could have, but it would have been 100% different. Aqua runs on top of Display PDF (which is the new version of DPS which NeXT used), and it gives apple totally different ways of doing things.... How exactly is beyond the scope of this email, but Apple's site has plenty of good info. -- [ Joseph Mallett <jmallett@xMach.org> ] [ http://srcsys.org ] [ xMach Core Team xMach: Proactively Unbloated Microkernel BSD ] [ FreeBSD, NetBSD, & xMach User; (Obj)C(++) Coder ] [ http://xMach.org ] -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS d-- s+:++ a--- C+++ UB++++ P+++ L- E---- W++ N+ o-- K- w++ O M+ V PS+ PE- Y+ PGP++ t++ 5-- X+ R tv- b++ DI+ D--- G e* h! r% z+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ On Sat, 26 May 2001, Fredrik Olausson wrote: > > On Sat, 26 May 2001, David Scheidt wrote: > > > On Sat, 26 May 2001, Fredrik Olausson wrote: > > > > : > > :On Sat, 26 May 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > :> > However, Apple isn't really a part of the open-source community, and it is > > :> > > :> Really? I know a lot of Darwin / OpenPlay / NetSprocket / CDSA folks > > :> who would vehemently disagree with you there! See publicsource.apple.com > > :> and also the Apple Public Source License (APSL). > > : > > :I meant the're not a part of the Slashdot in-crowd :) > > > > That's not really a very useful definition. The /. in crowd seems less > > interested in the technical merits of a thing than whether it's cool > > enough for them. > > This is true. Somehow, though, I have gotten a feeling that while Apple > certainly have "embraced" (I hate that word) open-source, they, as a > company, aren't that commited to the open-source community (again, I might > be wrong). While the kernel of MacOS is BSD-based, is really the rest of > the platform? Does the GUI run on top of X? Again, the feeling I get is > that Apple, again, as a company, has picked up some bits of very good code > without returning that much to the community. For an analogy, take RedHat > - the company has made big bucks un Linux, and has in return released > software like RPM to the public, when they could have chosen not to. Apple > could, for example, have built Aqua as a plain ol' windowmanager and > released it back to the public. I wonder if Apple's commitment to the > community will strenghten or lessen if MacOSX becomes a strong seller. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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