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Date:      Fri, 4 Mar 2011 06:00:15 -0800
From:      Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>
To:        Dr Josef Karthauser <joe@tao.org.uk>
Cc:        Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com>, freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ZFS on a single disk?
Message-ID:  <20110304140015.GA27523@icarus.home.lan>
In-Reply-To: <0A0632A0-24C3-4B11-8542-37A58DCA6390@tao.org.uk>
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On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 01:49:15PM +0000, Dr Josef Karthauser wrote:
> On 4 Mar 2011, at 13:18, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> > 
> > Not to mention, as I understand it, PAE induces all *sorts* of driver
> > incompatibilities and technical hurdles when it comes to the kernel.  I
> > believe there are features/drivers/etc. which also do not build/work if
> > PAE is used in the kernel.  If something suddenly starts acting "oddly"
> > on a PAE system, it wouldn't surprise me if PAE was to blame.
> > 
> > Joe should be aware that amd64 does offer i386 compatibility libraries
> > (referred to as "lib32") so you definitely can run i386 binaries on
> > amd64.
> 
> Hey Jeremy,
> 
> I don't believe that that's an issue anymore. The XEN kernel comes
> configured with PAE as a default option, and I've seen elsewhere that
> there is no technical problems running ZFS in a PAE environment. (The
> PAE docs are out of date when they say we can't use kernel modules,
> and any 64 bit aware kernel model should run with PAE with no
> difficulties).

XEN isn't something I'm familiar with, which is obviously a huge part of
the problem with me trying to give you advice on the matter.  :-)  The
only virtualisation "system" I'm familiar with is VMware Workstation,
which isn't anything like XEN.

What I'm going off of is /sys/i386/conf/PAE vs.  /sys/i386/conf/XEN.

Be sure to notice all the "nodevice" lines in /sys/i386/conf/PAE, and
the comment directly above those.  The XEN configuration file has
"options PAE", which is ultimately what a driver/piece of kernel code
would use for compile-time detection for supporting/working under PAE.

For example, arcmsr(4) will flat out panic() (intentionally) if PAE
is used.  bge(4) and twa(4) appear to have a 4GB boundary on DMA; I
don't know the implications of this.

-- 
| Jeremy Chadwick                                   jdc@parodius.com |
| Parodius Networking                       http://www.parodius.com/ |
| UNIX Systems Administrator                  Mountain View, CA, USA |
| Making life hard for others since 1977.               PGP 4BD6C0CB |




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