Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:28:36 -0400 From: "Koscielny, Wally" <Wally.Koscielny@gs.com> To: "'tls@rek.tjls.com'" <tls@rek.tjls.com> Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: many cheap PC164 boards -- gret for NetBSD (fwd) Message-ID: <BF1A000F1B4CD211B69C00104BCB07312ACC68@gsny24e.et.gs.com>
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My mistake thats PC164LX with the 533 and PC164 with the 500. Sorry about the typo > -----Original Message----- > From: Thor Lancelot Simon [SMTP:tls@rek.tjls.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 2:21 PM > To: Koscielny, Wally > Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: many cheap PC164 boards -- gret for NetBSD (fwd) > > On Wed, Apr 14, 1999 at 02:02:40PM -0400, Koscielny, Wally wrote: > > They only have one 164LX+533 left for $800 which I bought. The salesman > said > > that they get shipments of 25 and next shipment should be due soon. He > will > > contact me when they get the shipment. > > > > BTW_What is the retail value of these boards+chips (both the PC164+500 > and > > PC164+533) > > My vendor tells me that if you put the 533Mhz part on a PC164 board, it > will > only run at 500MHz. So that's something to be aware of. I have limited > experience in replacing the oscillators on these boards (to *down* clock > them, in my case, so I could recover from a nasty firmware flash utility > bug > by using the SROM debugger, which doesn't autobaud right at higher clock > rates) and while it's probably not too hard, I think you'd have > significant > trouble getting the oscillator you need to do it, I got a few leftover > samples from a research lab, but minimum orders for the parts are usually > in > the thousands. > > (Hm, that was for a PC64, actually -- but somehow I suspect it'd be > similar > for the PC164, though I've never tried it.) > > FWIW, nb01.netbsd.org was formerly a personal machine of mine, and was for > a > time the office fileserver, development build box, and firewall (we had a > power hit that ruined *all* these separate machines, so I dragged the > Alpha in from home to replace several high-end PPro boxes :-) at an > employer > of mine, where it ran for about four months before we could replace it. > That > was almost two years ago, but that box (a 433MHz PC164 from Microway) cost > me > about $2500 bare. > > I'm not sure there *is* a "retail value" of these boards now, since > they're > no longer made (and the Samsung equivalents that are still in production > won't run SRM, so you can't get the UNIX PALcode to run NetBSD on them) > but > I would probably have bought one at $800-$1000 and thought I'd got a > decent > deal, if I hadn't managed to set up the bulk order. > > Thor > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message
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