Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:27:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Bzdik BSD <bzdik@yahoo.com> To: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com>, Eric Jacoboni <jaco@teaser.fr>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Duplicating Audio CDs Message-ID: <20010422062757.82453.qmail@web13607.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <00b801c0caee$00f41fc0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
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After fighting with ATAPI issues + CDRWIN/Nero + "foreign file format" on the 7 billion Win2K, I also surrended and bought a nice SCSI burner. Over a year after, I still can't understand why I was so ...ahem... to resist. This SCSI emulation looks like backward language translation contest: the result rarely gets as good as original. Sometimes dragon wins :-). I guess I was more agreeable to put up with the "issues" on *nix platforms. "It's Psychology, stupid... " I told myself yet another time. --- Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Eric > Jacoboni > > > >I spoke about masquerade because some people complains about lack of > >cdrecord under FreeBSD with ATAPI devices. Sure, the solution is to > >buy SCSI devices but, sure also, ATAPI devices are cheaper and more > >common on low end boxes. Masquerading don't hurt me in such a > > I have heard that the ATAPI standard for CDROM's basically is the > SCSI standard - the ATAPI developers stole most of the SCSI commands > from SCSI-2 and put it on ATAPI. I would suspect that an emulation > layer > would not be tremendously difficult to write - for at least a basic > CDROM. Of course the devil is in the details and it would rapidly > get > more complicated as more and more oddball devices were supported. > > > > >I'm very happy with burncd, but i think it's a pity to not be able > to > >use such a well known program as cdrecord with FreeBSD as it's > >possible with other OS, that's all: i'm not a FreeBSD developer so i > >have to respect the team choice. I don't know if cdrecord with > > The FreeBSD core team has not made any kind of a decision to DENY > an emulation layer that I have heard of. If someone wants to write > one > I would guess that they would include it. > > >SCSI-emulation under Linux is better or not than burncd under > FreeBSD > >but i never heard complains about that. > > > > Then it seems that the task before you is clear - write such an > emulation > layer. We would all be happy to see it. > > I myself thought about writing an emulation layer for about 20 > microseconds > once. I decided that my time was worth enough that I could spend the > extra > $100 bucks on a SCSI burner, rather than the 200 hours or so it would > take > me to do a project like this. Also, by spending the $100 bucks I was > guarenteed > to have a solution that worked - whereas if I attempted to write one > then > I had no guarentee that I could ever produce a working piece of code. > > I think that everybody else have made the same decision in FreeBSD > which is > why there is no emulation layer. Apparently, over in the Linux camp, > there > is a developer who actually could produce a working emulation layer > that > didn't come to the same cost-benefit conclusion that we did over > here. This > just goes to show that no matter how unprofitable an idea is, there > is > always someone who will do it. Too bad that guy doesen't work on > FreeBSD. > > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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